1 00:00:16,540 --> 00:00:13,619 [Music] 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:16,550 this whole radio for the masses 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:20,810 headliner between July 8 1947 the Army 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:22,490 Air Forces has announced that applying 5 00:00:27,310 --> 00:00:24,770 this type is found and is now in the 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:27,320 possession of the army the babies would 7 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:30,290 changed the game 8 00:00:37,779 --> 00:00:33,460 I occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:37,789 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:00:46,099 --> 00:00:40,399 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:00:51,829 --> 00:00:48,860 this is fade to black with your host 12 00:00:55,009 --> 00:00:51,839 Jimmy Church on the game changer radio 13 00:00:58,930 --> 00:00:55,019 network and a GRA the global radio 14 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:01,619 I mean you're out to get to the 15 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:04,030 1985 16 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:07,810 [Music] 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:09,880 you're listening to fade to black with 18 00:01:17,010 --> 00:01:12,770 Jimmy judge on the game changing Network 19 00:01:25,529 --> 00:01:17,020 [Music] 20 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:25,539 hey now fade to black the spoke radio 21 00:01:41,559 --> 00:01:34,450 for Masse's yeah 22 00:01:44,499 --> 00:01:41,569 today's Tuesday May 8th 2018 128 days 23 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:44,509 into the new year just 237 days left we 24 00:01:49,839 --> 00:01:47,360 are live from a bunker somewhere in 25 00:01:51,399 --> 00:01:49,849 downtown Burbank California and I would 26 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:51,409 like to welcome everybody listening all 27 00:01:58,779 --> 00:01:55,280 around the world all across the United 28 00:02:01,330 --> 00:01:58,789 States hither and thither to and fro 29 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:01,340 back and forth up and down east and west 30 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:05,830 north and south far and near 31 00:02:12,850 --> 00:02:10,250 this is fade to black for kjc are the 32 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:12,860 game changer network and KCRA the planet 33 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:14,959 I am your host Jimmy Church what is 34 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:18,410 cracking everybody how you doing how you 35 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:24,930 doing how you doing you know what 36 00:02:32,830 --> 00:02:29,250 man that just makes me want to have 37 00:02:34,330 --> 00:02:32,840 Italian food tonight after the show Rita 38 00:02:39,130 --> 00:02:34,340 [Music] 39 00:02:42,379 --> 00:02:39,140 Italian how you doing all right 40 00:02:47,869 --> 00:02:42,389 tonight's very special guest Nick Pope 41 00:02:52,869 --> 00:02:47,879 is here to discuss these days of 42 00:02:55,819 --> 00:02:52,879 disclosure alien religion and technology 43 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:55,829 Wow so that's what we're gonna do 44 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:57,480 tonight now I'm just going to announce 45 00:03:03,860 --> 00:03:00,480 this right now we're gonna do an hour 46 00:03:06,259 --> 00:03:03,870 tonight with Nick and then we're gonna 47 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:06,269 open up the phone lines okay and I've 48 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:07,650 got some other stuff I'm going to 49 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:10,169 discuss with you and and so that's what 50 00:03:17,059 --> 00:03:12,959 we're gonna do tonight because Nick will 51 00:03:19,970 --> 00:03:17,069 be back with us on Thursday that's right 52 00:03:23,899 --> 00:03:19,980 he's gonna he's gonna take your calls 53 00:03:27,969 --> 00:03:23,909 with me here for Fator night how cool is 54 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:27,979 that and the cool part about it is 55 00:03:37,189 --> 00:03:30,930 wouldn't it be really neato 56 00:03:46,509 --> 00:03:37,199 if mica called him from dov'รจ yeah I got 57 00:03:49,339 --> 00:03:46,519 to hear those two yeah Nick mr. Pope 58 00:03:50,809 --> 00:03:49,349 have his hands full with a mica that 59 00:03:53,539 --> 00:03:50,819 would be really interesting so that's 60 00:03:55,849 --> 00:03:53,549 what we're gonna do so tonight our with 61 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:55,859 Nick and then we'll do we're gonna split 62 00:04:00,860 --> 00:03:57,840 the show up and then Thursday night say 63 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:00,870 tonight Nick will be back with us and 64 00:04:06,409 --> 00:04:02,729 will man the phones here with me in the 65 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:06,419 bunker okay so there's that now tomorrow 66 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:09,599 night our special surprise guest is 67 00:04:16,580 --> 00:04:13,049 Jason louvre and we're gonna talk about 68 00:04:19,999 --> 00:04:16,590 his explosive new book which I have here 69 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:20,009 it's called John D and the Empire of 70 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:24,150 angels Enochian magic and the occult 71 00:04:30,409 --> 00:04:27,050 roots of the modern world 72 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:30,419 that's tomorrow night right here on fade 73 00:04:36,379 --> 00:04:33,810 to black an amazing evening what a week 74 00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:36,389 we've had here on the show oh man it's 75 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:38,790 only Tuesday 76 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:46,320 goes back to last Thursday night here 77 00:04:52,220 --> 00:04:49,410 phaidor night was and and each each 78 00:04:55,460 --> 00:04:52,230 Thursday's is just amazing and I have so 79 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:55,470 much fun doing it but last Thursday was 80 00:04:59,930 --> 00:04:57,930 one of the great fader nights that was 81 00:05:02,030 --> 00:04:59,940 just an amazing night on the show which 82 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:02,040 is why we do the show and your phone 83 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:05,270 calls but that was just so much fun and 84 00:05:10,670 --> 00:05:07,860 so we're gonna continue that this week 85 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:10,680 and just just I just came off of the 86 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:18,930 high that we can all be man who is is 87 00:05:27,410 --> 00:05:22,410 that meatloaf who is that that meatloaf 88 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:27,420 looks like meatloaf Eric I didn't know 89 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:30,930 you were a meatloaf fan I didn't know 90 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:33,000 you were me hold on I'm you know what I 91 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:39,530 can't I can't resist the temptation is 92 00:05:55,090 --> 00:05:51,220 this meatloaf just just asking or friend 93 00:05:59,570 --> 00:05:55,100 [Laughter] 94 00:06:01,250 --> 00:05:59,580 I said you know what you need do you 95 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:01,260 want to cause trouble all cause trouble 96 00:06:04,490 --> 00:06:02,730 that's right 97 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:04,500 that's what I'm here for causing trouble 98 00:06:08,180 --> 00:06:06,060 and then this Thursday is another fate 99 00:06:09,740 --> 00:06:08,190 or night but not just another fate or 100 00:06:12,350 --> 00:06:09,750 night with Jon Rappoport and open lines 101 00:06:14,690 --> 00:06:12,360 all night long and there's no more fake 102 00:06:17,030 --> 00:06:14,700 newsroom live because we will have mr. 103 00:06:19,460 --> 00:06:17,040 Nick Pope here 104 00:06:22,270 --> 00:06:19,470 to man the phones okay all right follow 105 00:06:27,980 --> 00:06:22,280 us on Twitter at Jay turts radio 106 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:27,990 Facebook winding down quickly I have no 107 00:06:35,890 --> 00:06:30,600 interest and not I'm not sliding any of 108 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:35,900 my friends and family that are over 109 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:38,670 makes me want to call that are over on 110 00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:41,100 Facebook okay if Facebook is your thing 111 00:06:46,970 --> 00:06:44,790 go for it I have zero interest I'm just 112 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:46,980 gonna milk Facebook for all it's worth 113 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:49,930 and use it 114 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:52,479 to promote the show for another month or 115 00:07:01,200 --> 00:06:56,259 so but that's it I'm done I can't 116 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:01,210 believe how little I care it's just over 117 00:07:04,409 --> 00:07:03,310 on on stellar you just have so much fun 118 00:07:06,450 --> 00:07:04,419 it's so cool 119 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,460 so there you go so that's that I'll get 120 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:08,800 on stellar in a second any questions or 121 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:11,530 comments during the show hashtag f2b q 122 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:15,550 on Twitter sandbox our little chat room 123 00:07:22,379 --> 00:07:17,110 our little corner of the internet 124 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:22,389 universe is hashtag f to be on our 125 00:07:29,580 --> 00:07:25,810 hashtag F to be on Twitter that's Meat 126 00:07:31,890 --> 00:07:29,590 Loaf's clone actually is that true is 127 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:31,900 that true I didn't know he cloned but 128 00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:33,910 you know what you wouldn't know you 129 00:07:39,930 --> 00:07:37,000 would know if it was a clone right but 130 00:07:42,450 --> 00:07:39,940 man that does that that that's a pretty 131 00:07:47,010 --> 00:07:42,460 good gift right there that dude looks 132 00:07:48,450 --> 00:07:47,020 like love you want to check out what I'm 133 00:07:50,689 --> 00:07:48,460 talking about just follow me on Twitter 134 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:50,699 agitator radios right there 135 00:07:55,529 --> 00:07:54,190 no it's really cool all right email 136 00:07:59,420 --> 00:07:55,539 throughout the show Jimmy at Jupiter 137 00:08:02,219 --> 00:07:59,430 Tretiak on breaking news breaking news 138 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:02,229 last night which is tomorrow 139 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:05,470 well it's earlier today or is it today I 140 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:07,449 don't know you get the drill but over in 141 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:13,000 Armenia Nicolle high chignon was just 142 00:08:22,050 --> 00:08:17,110 elected prime minister of armenia it 143 00:08:26,820 --> 00:08:22,060 actually happened Rhydian happen 3:30 144 00:08:30,749 --> 00:08:26,830 a.m. our time we watched everything live 145 00:08:33,630 --> 00:08:30,759 on the streams and got popcorn got 146 00:08:36,899 --> 00:08:33,640 munchies and just watched this all night 147 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:36,909 but he was elected yep he was elected 148 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:42,729 and now the real work starts but 149 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:46,240 congratulations to all of the people of 150 00:08:52,769 --> 00:08:49,540 Armenia not only in Armenia but around 151 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:52,779 the world and congratulations Nicole for 152 00:08:58,290 --> 00:08:55,930 leading this Velvet Revolution who would 153 00:09:01,980 --> 00:08:58,300 have thought that this day would have 154 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:01,990 happened but it did it's here and today 155 00:09:06,060 --> 00:09:03,370 is his first day in office 156 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:06,070 about that absolutely incredible so 157 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:08,970 there you go it went down it actually 158 00:09:18,450 --> 00:09:12,370 happened all right I got this email 159 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:18,460 earlier today from Andrew and and Rita 160 00:09:25,170 --> 00:09:21,370 just said really really what really what 161 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:25,180 really what Rita I don't know I don't 162 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:27,370 know you mean meatloaf clone I didn't do 163 00:09:32,250 --> 00:09:29,470 that that's a that's on Eric if that's 164 00:09:36,540 --> 00:09:32,260 what you're referring to I got this 165 00:09:38,970 --> 00:09:36,550 email earlier today from Andrew and I'm 166 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:38,980 gonna read it to you here it's pretty 167 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:41,370 interesting he says I live on the North 168 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:45,370 Norfolk coast Cromer in the United 169 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Kingdom I'm sitting on the beach outside 170 00:10:01,440 --> 00:09:55,050 my beach hut since about 2000 hours GMT 171 00:10:04,430 --> 00:10:01,450 okay so I guess that's 10 p.m. the sky 172 00:10:08,670 --> 00:10:04,440 here has been full of USA military 173 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:08,680 activity fighter jets Herc's you know 174 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:12,580 c-130 Hercules even an osprey you know 175 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:15,910 the tilt-rotor aircraft something big is 176 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:17,770 being rehearsed here I know that our 177 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:20,110 coastal area is used regularly as it 178 00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:21,940 represents the closest terrain to the 179 00:10:28,050 --> 00:10:24,430 Middle East activity is intense and 180 00:10:31,829 --> 00:10:28,060 constant not seen the like of this for 181 00:10:35,060 --> 00:10:31,839 years now and that's all that he sent to 182 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:35,070 me but we have a very large UK audience 183 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:38,050 so I would like to hear from any of you 184 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:39,730 out there shoot me an email post it in 185 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:42,370 Twitter if you have seen this military 186 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:45,250 activity and if it's if you know 187 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:46,870 anything about it is it something that 188 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:51,279 is is it some military drill that was 189 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:53,700 announced to the public is it something 190 00:11:01,470 --> 00:10:58,770 that is standard or not or what have you 191 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:01,480 heard I would like to know and if you 192 00:11:06,329 --> 00:11:04,510 shout any video or anything also let us 193 00:11:07,769 --> 00:11:06,339 know it's a lot of things you know hot 194 00:11:09,690 --> 00:11:07,779 spots around the world there's a lot of 195 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:09,700 things going on and it could be a a 196 00:11:16,830 --> 00:11:11,920 dress rehearsal for something else I do 197 00:11:19,020 --> 00:11:16,840 agree with Andrew so please let us know 198 00:11:20,730 --> 00:11:19,030 right from the UK if you have seen 199 00:11:25,260 --> 00:11:20,740 anything going on or if you know 200 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:25,270 anything about these drills specifically 201 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:28,030 and what they are for okay thank you for 202 00:11:33,450 --> 00:11:31,000 that little public service announcement 203 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:33,460 a PSA okay 204 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:37,090 today is day 14 of the on stellar alpha 205 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:41,290 testing and now not only does the 206 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:43,690 platform look really really awesome and 207 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:46,690 it's fast and sleek and amazing and cool 208 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:48,670 and the bugs are getting worked out and 209 00:11:54,660 --> 00:11:52,570 all of that stuff but we have launched 210 00:11:57,900 --> 00:11:54,670 in the last 24 hours you now have 211 00:12:02,310 --> 00:11:57,910 wallets and tokens those have been added 212 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:02,320 and we are moving quickly into the beta 213 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:05,200 stage which should happen it could 214 00:12:12,990 --> 00:12:08,860 happen maybe in the next 24 hours or so 215 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:13,000 and so get ready for that and when the 216 00:12:18,630 --> 00:12:15,250 beta stage kicks in there are gonna be a 217 00:12:19,950 --> 00:12:18,640 bunch of things not only added but 218 00:12:23,370 --> 00:12:19,960 there's going to be some movement and 219 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:23,380 some things that are going to happen we 220 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:26,020 will release an email to everybody and 221 00:12:31,230 --> 00:12:28,570 make an announcement on on stellar about 222 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:31,240 these changes all of the changes that 223 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:34,030 have happened all the technical speak if 224 00:12:39,450 --> 00:12:37,210 you go to on stellar right now and and 225 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:39,460 check out the training page there is a 226 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:41,590 notice right there from on stellar about 227 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:43,870 all of the changes that have been made 228 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:46,990 one of the announcements that is in that 229 00:12:54,810 --> 00:12:51,010 current release is that we have an 230 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:54,820 imminent release of a news feed now the 231 00:12:59,430 --> 00:12:56,800 news feed will be on your profile page 232 00:13:02,340 --> 00:12:59,440 and you will be able all of your friends 233 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:02,350 that are in your friends list everything 234 00:13:07,860 --> 00:13:04,570 that they have done or people that you 235 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:07,870 follow everything that they have done as 236 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:13,930 far as posts or or articles video upload 237 00:13:18,750 --> 00:13:15,910 stuff like that will be in the newsfeed 238 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:18,760 and so that's going to be there this is 239 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:20,770 a really really really really really big 240 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:24,370 step now there are I want everybody to 241 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:27,010 understand some things the reason why 242 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:28,750 all of this isn't done all at the same 243 00:13:32,569 --> 00:13:29,610 time is be 244 00:13:35,090 --> 00:13:32,579 we have to make sure that each thing 245 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:35,100 that is done and every big change that 246 00:13:39,769 --> 00:13:37,620 is implemented works properly and and 247 00:13:42,259 --> 00:13:39,779 doesn't mess up the rest of the system 248 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:42,269 of course right well that's what's going 249 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:43,920 on that's the alpha stage but we are 250 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:49,920 very very close so the beta once that is 251 00:13:54,319 --> 00:13:52,290 rolled out and how that is handled and 252 00:13:57,079 --> 00:13:54,329 what it is going to be done with it it's 253 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:57,089 gonna be a monstrous thing there are 254 00:14:00,139 --> 00:13:58,170 some other things that are going to 255 00:14:04,009 --> 00:14:00,149 happen at the same time and at that 256 00:14:06,199 --> 00:14:04,019 point we are close but it's it's 257 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:06,209 absolutely amazing so get ready for that 258 00:14:11,449 --> 00:14:09,450 we'll send an email out we'll do a 259 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:11,459 formal notification let everybody know 260 00:14:15,259 --> 00:14:12,930 that these changes are about to happen 261 00:14:18,769 --> 00:14:15,269 in the new Reavis is about to kick in 262 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:18,779 and we are formally into beta but we are 263 00:14:25,579 --> 00:14:20,010 really close I do want to thank 264 00:14:27,230 --> 00:14:25,589 everybody for not only the bug fixes and 265 00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:27,240 the suggestions because that's what 266 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:29,040 alpha is about it's about you going out 267 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:30,810 there and finding things that aren't 268 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:34,890 working now the responses we are doing 269 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:36,810 our absolute very best the team over 270 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:39,290 announced l or in the developers and 271 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:42,540 what they do there the list is very long 272 00:14:47,870 --> 00:14:45,360 but they get stuff done it's a 24 hour 273 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:47,880 day seven day a week project when you're 274 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:49,890 it's gonna always be that way but 275 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:52,529 especially when you're in alpha and the 276 00:14:57,710 --> 00:14:54,240 amount of work that is put in you can 277 00:15:02,110 --> 00:14:57,720 see these bug fixes happen nearly in 278 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:02,120 real time so there's a lot more to do 279 00:15:07,790 --> 00:15:05,970 but this news feed and the other three 280 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:07,800 or four major things that are gonna 281 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:12,050 happen at the same time are gonna really 282 00:15:17,780 --> 00:15:14,730 impress you 283 00:15:20,509 --> 00:15:17,790 so but with that and then we've got to 284 00:15:22,730 --> 00:15:20,519 work on the rest of the token economy 285 00:15:25,220 --> 00:15:22,740 and it's about security it's about 286 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:25,230 signing in it's about your password it's 287 00:15:29,150 --> 00:15:28,649 about verification and and and and all 288 00:15:32,689 --> 00:15:29,160 of that 289 00:15:36,380 --> 00:15:32,699 it's got to be top-shelf security for 290 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:36,390 you for us for everybody in the 291 00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:39,839 community so please understand that we 292 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:43,470 are very very cautious about your pride 293 00:15:50,030 --> 00:15:46,140 you're right your data and and 294 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:50,040 everything the the latest announcement 295 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:52,110 that is over on on stellar right now now 296 00:15:56,060 --> 00:15:53,610 you can click on the training page and 297 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:56,070 see the article explains a lot 298 00:16:01,220 --> 00:15:58,560 there okay but your privacy your data 299 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:01,230 your security your passwords and 300 00:16:06,970 --> 00:16:02,850 everything that runs on the surface is 301 00:16:10,430 --> 00:16:06,980 very very very important okay on stellar 302 00:16:12,070 --> 00:16:10,440 and you can go and register now as I 303 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:12,080 speak I wanted to make this announcement 304 00:16:18,620 --> 00:16:15,150 before we move further I've got on 305 00:16:24,740 --> 00:16:18,630 stellar live now in the studio and it's 306 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:24,750 right here so and I am getting messages 307 00:16:32,630 --> 00:16:29,850 right now so we have the chat rooms we 308 00:16:35,930 --> 00:16:32,640 have Twitter we have email we have all 309 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:35,940 of this real-time stuff going on and now 310 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:40,050 we have on stellar so if you choose and 311 00:16:43,910 --> 00:16:41,550 your over and on stellar and you're 312 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:43,920 listening to the program and you want to 313 00:16:47,390 --> 00:16:45,600 message me during the show or send me a 314 00:16:49,820 --> 00:16:47,400 question it pops up and they get the 315 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:49,830 notification on my screen right away so 316 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:52,970 I can see it I have at it 317 00:17:00,650 --> 00:16:56,850 have at it why not why not complicate my 318 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:00,660 life just one more layer here okay but 319 00:17:08,690 --> 00:17:03,690 do it I encourage it it is just so cool 320 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:08,700 I cannot get off of this platform see ya 321 00:17:24,490 --> 00:17:15,210 okay all right Gabriel are okay are you 322 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:24,500 testing me there you go there you go see 323 00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:26,790 see there you go 324 00:17:32,570 --> 00:17:29,430 it's really that simple on stellar so 325 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:32,580 cool all right let's move on we've got 326 00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:34,410 so much to talk about 327 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:38,550 now our next and by the way on stellar 328 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:40,830 is going to be at contact in the desert 329 00:17:46,010 --> 00:17:44,010 along with us and stillness in the storm 330 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:46,020 and modern masters we will all be 331 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:49,200 together in the center of the floor 332 00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:51,690 there so come and hang out with us come 333 00:17:55,580 --> 00:17:54,180 up to the on stellar booth fade to black 334 00:17:57,380 --> 00:17:55,590 booth we're going to have a lot 335 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:57,390 really cool things I'll be hanging out 336 00:18:02,419 --> 00:17:59,010 there all weekend it's always the place 337 00:18:06,590 --> 00:18:02,429 to be and four days of events and 338 00:18:09,740 --> 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them it's so cool 395 00:20:55,770 --> 00:20:53,260 bags of 50 signing those it is so cool 396 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:55,780 very humbling experience when you go 397 00:20:59,490 --> 00:20:57,370 through all of that don't forget all of 398 00:21:00,330 --> 00:20:59,500 our sponsors here life changed he kept 399 00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:00,340 the t-dot-com 400 00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:02,950 River moon coffee new pharma ancient 401 00:21:08,910 --> 00:21:06,280 life oil sacred skulls new manna food 402 00:21:11,580 --> 00:21:08,920 storage and bearing optics all of their 403 00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:11,590 banners and promo codes are over it 404 00:21:15,030 --> 00:21:13,660 Jimmy Church radio calm let's get this 405 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:15,040 show cracking by the way happy birthday 406 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:21,910 to today andrey k Iglesias is 43 dozen 407 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:25,290 Iglesias mean Church 408 00:21:33,410 --> 00:21:28,720 all right that's Church in Spanish and 409 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:33,420 there's one thing you know son of Julio 410 00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:39,450 right son of Julio Julio huge star right 411 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,000 Enrique as the Sun right 100 million 412 00:21:54,270 --> 00:21:48,880 albums sold worldwide and that's 413 00:21:56,820 --> 00:21:54,280 insanity that is megastar but and he's 414 00:22:02,130 --> 00:21:56,830 great was that song hero it was good it 415 00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:02,140 was a good song but he played in I'm 416 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:06,340 trying to think of the movie he played 417 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:11,530 an assassin in Mexico Rita what was that 418 00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:13,330 movie called where he played that 419 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:16,000 assassin there was like four guys in his 420 00:22:21,989 --> 00:22:16,690 group 421 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:21,999 and if I said I wasn't an Tonio banderas 422 00:22:27,089 --> 00:22:25,769 he worked for I can't even remember now 423 00:22:29,249 --> 00:22:27,099 huh 424 00:22:31,049 --> 00:22:29,259 I can't remember but he's really good in 425 00:22:33,930 --> 00:22:31,059 the movie I just can't remember what the 426 00:22:36,749 --> 00:22:33,940 movie was all right I've got to get one 427 00:22:39,659 --> 00:22:36,759 of those hats but if it's signed and it 428 00:22:40,889 --> 00:22:39,669 will be hard to wear and I want to sport 429 00:22:45,389 --> 00:22:40,899 it all the time 430 00:22:49,259 --> 00:22:45,399 well what you do is get yourself a gold 431 00:22:52,469 --> 00:22:49,269 pen where it's signed and just sign over 432 00:22:53,729 --> 00:22:52,479 it you can sign it again right filmed 433 00:22:59,399 --> 00:22:53,739 right down the street from my high 434 00:23:03,299 --> 00:22:59,409 school in Santa Cruz California Jimmy 435 00:23:13,589 --> 00:23:03,309 Enrique sucks and you know it heavy 436 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:13,599 metal rules oh that I like all music he 437 00:23:19,049 --> 00:23:15,609 used to wear those sweaters remember the 438 00:23:23,219 --> 00:23:19,059 sweaters that were too long and the 439 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:23,229 sleeves and they would I never did that 440 00:23:28,859 --> 00:23:26,169 I never in my fans fashion world I never 441 00:23:33,749 --> 00:23:28,869 did the the sleeves that went past your 442 00:23:41,159 --> 00:23:33,759 hand now man I liked Enrique Enrique is 443 00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:41,169 cool man Enrique is cool so I like 444 00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:44,049 allmusic's yeah and that's the thing I'm 445 00:23:50,879 --> 00:23:47,169 I like um if music is good it's just 446 00:23:52,469 --> 00:23:50,889 good you know it doesn't you know yeah I 447 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:52,479 listen to heavy metal that's my thing 448 00:23:56,190 --> 00:23:55,210 but I like the blues on like country I 449 00:23:59,849 --> 00:23:56,200 like salsa 450 00:24:05,099 --> 00:23:59,859 I like Latino stuff I like russian and 451 00:24:08,430 --> 00:24:05,109 armenian music and man i to fans like it 452 00:24:13,129 --> 00:24:08,440 all you know if it's good it's good it 453 00:24:15,989 --> 00:24:13,139 just doesn't really matter but this I 454 00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:15,999 love this audience all right our dead 455 00:24:23,159 --> 00:24:20,070 guys birthday today is Ricky Nelson 1942 456 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:23,169 1985 died at the age of 45 tragically by 457 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,690 the way singer songwriter musician he 458 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:28,000 was on the Ozzie and Harriet show 459 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:30,340 forever because he was the son of Ozzie 460 00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:33,070 and Harriet Nelson The Adventures of 461 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:35,350 Ozzie and Harriet he was also nominated 462 00:24:42,330 --> 00:24:37,720 for Golden Globe for his appearance in 463 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:42,340 Rio Bravo yeah what does that remind you 464 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:43,330 of get shorty 465 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:45,490 I should have ah that's a Twitter 466 00:24:50,610 --> 00:24:47,950 question I should have let that hang out 467 00:24:55,769 --> 00:24:50,620 there which is great but not as great as 468 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,779 his song garden party and I listened to 469 00:25:01,399 --> 00:24:58,480 it today Rita she shows up at the bunker 470 00:25:04,139 --> 00:25:01,409 I listened to four versions of 471 00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:04,149 garden-party couple of them live couple 472 00:25:09,899 --> 00:25:06,870 studio version it's cranked ear-bleeding 473 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:09,909 level love that song 474 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:12,730 love that song Nelson dreaded flying but 475 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:17,070 refused to travel by bus so in May 1985 476 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:19,750 that's right the year that he died in 477 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:23,289 May 1985 he decided he needed a private 478 00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:27,840 plane and paid 118 thousand dollars for 479 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:33,580 14c 1944 douglas dc-3 that had once 480 00:25:41,399 --> 00:25:38,049 belong to Jerry Lee Lewis later that 481 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:41,409 year on December 31st 1985 the plane 482 00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:44,950 crash-landed northeast of Dallas in a 483 00:25:51,509 --> 00:25:47,919 cow pasture less than two miles from a 484 00:25:54,450 --> 00:25:51,519 landing strip seven were killed Nelson 485 00:25:57,330 --> 00:25:54,460 and his companion Helen Blair bass 486 00:26:00,869 --> 00:25:57,340 guitars Patrick Woodward drummer Rick 487 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:00,879 inte Velde keyboardist Andy Chapin and 488 00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:04,600 guitarist Bobby Neal and also their road 489 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:07,860 manager Sam and Donald Clark Russell 490 00:26:14,970 --> 00:26:11,830 pilots Ken Ferguson and Brad rank both 491 00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:14,980 survived and escaped via the cockpit 492 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:19,870 windows Wow Wow incredible 493 00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,049 Ricky Nilson just amazing that song 494 00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:25,840 garden party just just beyond beyond 495 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:29,440 great and I think um well actually I 496 00:26:35,730 --> 00:26:32,289 think I've heard Freddie Mercury do 497 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:35,740 opera with the Montserrat no I did not 498 00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,490 know I bet you that is pretty epic love 499 00:26:44,650 --> 00:26:41,120 talking music here speaking 500 00:26:47,049 --> 00:26:44,660 music here's a fader fact for you all 501 00:26:48,090 --> 00:26:47,059 right speaking of music let's let's keep 502 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:48,100 it going 503 00:26:57,150 --> 00:26:52,250 Barry Manilow didn't write his song 504 00:26:59,920 --> 00:26:57,160 called I write the songs 505 00:27:02,110 --> 00:26:59,930 now I thought when I heard that song 506 00:27:04,030 --> 00:27:02,120 back in the 70s I write the songs that 507 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:04,040 make the whole world sing about 508 00:27:08,110 --> 00:27:06,410 everything I thought that Barry wrote 509 00:27:09,490 --> 00:27:08,120 that because he writes the songs and 510 00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:09,500 that there were all these rumors back 511 00:27:12,850 --> 00:27:11,480 that that he wrote all the commercials 512 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:12,860 and McDonald's and Kentucky Fried 513 00:27:16,060 --> 00:27:14,450 Chicken and all these things right I 514 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:16,070 don't know if that's true but it seemed 515 00:27:19,450 --> 00:27:17,330 like he wrote all those commercial 516 00:27:22,299 --> 00:27:19,460 jingles so when he said you know he 517 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:22,309 sings a song I write the songs I assumed 518 00:27:29,290 --> 00:27:25,010 he wrote the songs but he didn't write 519 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:29,300 that one yeah here you go on this day in 520 00:27:39,340 --> 00:27:34,370 history OTD 1963 Sean Connery breaks out 521 00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:39,350 with his first Bond movie dr. no and I'm 522 00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,000 gonna go on the record right now and I'm 523 00:27:48,669 --> 00:27:43,520 just gonna say it before the controversy 524 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:48,679 starts he is my favorite bond I think a 525 00:27:52,690 --> 00:27:51,710 James Bond I think of Sean Connery I'm 526 00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:52,700 going on the record 527 00:27:59,470 --> 00:27:56,750 okay that's it Sean Connery and there 528 00:28:01,630 --> 00:27:59,480 you go all right tonight very special 529 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:01,640 guest Nick Pope is here we're going to 530 00:28:07,030 --> 00:28:04,640 discuss the days of disclosure alien 531 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:07,040 religion and technology that'll be 532 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:10,220 tonight Thursday night Nick is going to 533 00:28:14,770 --> 00:28:12,890 be back with us for another hour he's 534 00:28:17,650 --> 00:28:14,780 gonna man the phones with me here and 535 00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:17,660 take your phone calls on fader No whoa 536 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:21,200 later on tonight I'm gonna open up the 537 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:23,450 phone lines after Nick so get ready for 538 00:28:28,450 --> 00:28:27,050 that and we're gonna gonna have some fun 539 00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:28,460 I've got some other stuff I'm going to 540 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:32,120 talk about tonight with all of you and 541 00:28:36,910 --> 00:28:34,730 I'll take your phone calls after mr. 542 00:28:39,610 --> 00:28:36,920 Pope okay so I'm gonna get out of here 543 00:28:40,990 --> 00:28:39,620 right now I'll get Nick in don't forget 544 00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:41,000 that tomorrow night our very special 545 00:28:45,970 --> 00:28:44,270 surprise guest Jason louvre will be here 546 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:45,980 we're gonna talk about his amazing new 547 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:49,010 book it's called John Dee and the Empire 548 00:28:54,460 --> 00:28:52,310 of Angels Enochian magic and the occult 549 00:28:56,140 --> 00:28:54,470 roots of the modern world 550 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:56,150 Thursday's gonna be another fader night 551 00:28:59,980 --> 00:28:57,890 not just another fader night because 552 00:29:02,049 --> 00:28:59,990 Nick Pope's could it be here along with 553 00:29:05,529 --> 00:29:02,059 John Rapp and poor Jon Rappoport and 554 00:29:05,890 --> 00:29:05,539 open lines all night long this is fade 555 00:29:07,899 --> 00:29:05,900 to black 556 00:29:10,779 --> 00:29:07,909 I'm your host Jimmy Church I'm gonna get 557 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:10,789 out of here get Nick in and we'll pick 558 00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:12,530 things up from there you can follow me 559 00:29:19,210 --> 00:29:16,460 on twitter @ JT radio email is jimmy at 560 00:29:23,169 --> 00:29:19,220 jimmy church radio calm on the 561 00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:23,179 GameChanger network and kg are a the 562 00:29:25,550 --> 00:29:23,870 planet 563 00:29:32,490 --> 00:29:25,560 we'll be right back stay with them 564 00:30:10,629 --> 00:29:56,810 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single day here the entire staff friends 637 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:01,520 and family everybody's on the life 638 00:34:07,930 --> 00:34:05,120 change tea promo code fader fa ber over 639 00:34:12,030 --> 00:34:07,940 at jimmy church radio calm we'll get you 640 00:34:16,090 --> 00:34:12,040 free shipping tonight it's Nick Pope and 641 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:16,100 I had mentioned right before the break 642 00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:19,610 that over at on stellar if you're over 643 00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:21,710 at on stellar right now and listening to 644 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:24,800 the show you can message me right there 645 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:28,010 and I go and I slip of the tongue and I 646 00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:30,050 literally there are so many people at on 647 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:32,000 and on stellar hanging out and 648 00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:33,770 apparently listening to the show and I 649 00:34:42,220 --> 00:34:39,830 got thirty messages popped up that right 650 00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,230 there and I tried to hit everybody back 651 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:44,960 I didn't have enough time but thank you 652 00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:47,690 that's very humbling on stellar is just 653 00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:50,150 amazing so thank you for that that was 654 00:34:54,700 --> 00:34:52,070 my slip of the tongue you know be 655 00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,710 careful what you wish for right Nick 656 00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:56,960 Pope worked for the UK's Ministry of 657 00:35:01,540 --> 00:34:59,410 Defense investigating UFOs and other 658 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:01,550 mysteries officially for the British 659 00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:04,280 government leading the media to call him 660 00:35:10,780 --> 00:35:07,460 the real Fox Mulder because of his work 661 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:10,790 on these real x-files nick has worked as 662 00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:12,800 a consultant or spokes person on 663 00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:15,710 numerous alien themed movies TV series 664 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:18,110 video games nick is a regular 665 00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:19,730 contributor to numerous TV shows 666 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:22,220 including ancient aliens expedition 667 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:24,680 unknown NASA's unexplained files 668 00:35:30,340 --> 00:35:27,680 unsealed and UFOs uncovering the truth 669 00:35:32,350 --> 00:35:30,350 he has written to science fiction novels 670 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:32,360 a thriller and three books about UFOs 671 00:35:37,420 --> 00:35:35,930 the most recent which I have here and I 672 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:37,430 got in it you know what's funny it's 673 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:38,810 called encounter in Rendlesham forest 674 00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:41,930 and when the book is released and Nick 675 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:43,340 is gonna laugh right now well let me 676 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:44,690 just say this right now Nick welcome 677 00:35:48,850 --> 00:35:47,090 back to the program how are you bad I am 678 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:48,860 fine it's great to be back on the show 679 00:35:53,140 --> 00:35:50,690 yeah Thank You Nick I was just going to 680 00:35:57,069 --> 00:35:53,150 recount the story when the 681 00:36:00,039 --> 00:35:57,079 book was released and you had one copy 682 00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:00,049 left and I said well that's mine and he 683 00:36:06,279 --> 00:36:03,529 said Jimmy I said Nick I want the book 684 00:36:09,970 --> 00:36:06,289 and you took it out and you signed it 685 00:36:12,430 --> 00:36:09,980 right there and handed it to me and and 686 00:36:15,069 --> 00:36:12,440 I do you remember that whole thing I I 687 00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:15,079 know I press lately yes you you cleaned 688 00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,680 me out I don't have one myself I do I'm 689 00:36:26,319 --> 00:36:24,079 kiddin ya know it was really funny and I 690 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:26,329 got the book and I'm walking away I'm 691 00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:28,720 like man I just took his last book and 692 00:36:34,029 --> 00:36:31,910 so anyway but it is a treasured thing 693 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:34,039 that I have down here in the bunker and 694 00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:36,170 and it's just a little funny moment 695 00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:38,020 between the two of us nobody was around 696 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:41,660 so nobody got to witness me bullying you 697 00:36:46,930 --> 00:36:44,990 to get your last book but there you go 698 00:36:50,109 --> 00:36:46,940 welcome back to the program and it's 699 00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:50,119 it's been a while we see each other out 700 00:36:53,049 --> 00:36:51,680 there publicly but it's been a while 701 00:36:53,799 --> 00:36:53,059 since you've been on with this what have 702 00:36:58,359 --> 00:36:53,809 you been up to 703 00:37:00,970 --> 00:36:58,369 oh gosh lots of things I have been doing 704 00:37:03,819 --> 00:37:00,980 quite a lot of filming obviously for the 705 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:03,829 new season of ancient aliens which is 706 00:37:08,829 --> 00:37:06,410 just starting and of course I was in the 707 00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:08,839 season premiere which covered the 708 00:37:13,269 --> 00:37:11,569 Pentagon's UFO program but I'm in a 709 00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:13,279 whole bunch of other episodes this 710 00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:16,700 season so that's keeping me busy I have 711 00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:19,670 just finished my latest book and I'm 712 00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:22,460 starting the sequel to that I have a 713 00:37:27,809 --> 00:37:24,920 whole bunch of other offers for various 714 00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:27,819 TV shows a lot of people talk about me 715 00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:30,920 appearing on other people's shows and 716 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:32,569 and say well maybe you should have your 717 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,930 own so I'm in discussions about that and 718 00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:37,520 it just seems like there's always 719 00:37:43,269 --> 00:37:40,270 something going on yeah you're you 720 00:37:45,309 --> 00:37:43,279 there's there's something about well 721 00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:45,319 first off you have the mo D connection 722 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:47,569 so there you go you've got that but 723 00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:49,010 there's something about the way that you 724 00:37:55,450 --> 00:37:51,950 speak and your presentation on the 725 00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:55,460 subject that people resonate with and 726 00:38:01,480 --> 00:37:58,640 because of that are you careful about 727 00:38:03,309 --> 00:38:01,490 what you say do you choose your words 728 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:03,319 because people listen to you and they 729 00:38:07,090 --> 00:38:04,400 take notes 730 00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:07,100 I choose my words very carefully for two 731 00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:07,670 reasons 732 00:38:11,830 --> 00:38:09,380 I mean firstly of course I am still 733 00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:11,840 bound by my secrecy oath and even though 734 00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:13,430 I've retired from the Ministry of 735 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:16,790 Defense that binds me for life so of 736 00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:18,740 course it's very easy sometimes to get 737 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:20,540 into a discussion with someone 738 00:38:26,530 --> 00:38:22,730 particularly on you know late-night 739 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:26,540 radio show or something and you perhaps 740 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:29,150 say a little bit too close to the wind 741 00:38:32,650 --> 00:38:31,250 and and you have to pull yourself back 742 00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:32,660 and realize wait a minute no that's 743 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:35,030 classified so so that's one reason but 744 00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:36,530 the other one is yes I do 745 00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:39,200 have I suppose what has been called a 746 00:38:47,830 --> 00:38:43,880 BBC English voice and I do a lot of TV 747 00:38:51,550 --> 00:38:47,840 and radio for the BBC so people do 748 00:38:54,510 --> 00:38:51,560 because of the job I did listen to me 749 00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:54,520 carefully and sometimes read things into 750 00:39:01,450 --> 00:38:58,490 what I say and sometimes I must say miss 751 00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:01,460 read things into what I say so yes every 752 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:04,940 word I think carefully about now I know 753 00:39:12,990 --> 00:39:07,970 that you have your oath but it would be 754 00:39:16,450 --> 00:39:13,000 really cool to if you just note for me 755 00:39:18,850 --> 00:39:16,460 if you fell on your own sword and took 756 00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:18,860 one for the team and became a martyr and 757 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:22,580 just one day just let it all go and you 758 00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:25,460 know look I would I would donate to your 759 00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:27,500 canteen in prison I would make sure you 760 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,800 you ate well yes well thank you for that 761 00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:32,960 I think history shows us that martyrs 762 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:34,940 don't usually come to a very good end 763 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:37,850 and so I think I'll I'll pass on that 764 00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:40,310 one thank you yeah and and not to make 765 00:39:46,420 --> 00:39:44,060 light of it though Nick because of the 766 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:46,430 oath and we're all curious about that I 767 00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:51,220 don't have a security oh you do but is 768 00:39:59,860 --> 00:39:56,030 that oath for you the classified stuff 769 00:40:01,660 --> 00:39:59,870 not related necessarily to UFOs I mean 770 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:01,670 you have other classified information 771 00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:04,400 that you can't speak about that has 772 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:06,140 nothing to do right about the UFO 773 00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:09,440 subject and that is the concern well 774 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:11,870 it's all of the above I was in the 775 00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:14,570 Ministry of Defence for 21 years but my 776 00:40:19,939 --> 00:40:17,880 time on the UFO project was only three 777 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:19,949 within that period I've done a whole 778 00:40:25,309 --> 00:40:22,890 bunch of different postings throughout 779 00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:25,319 my time there I've done a financial 780 00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:28,380 policy job a personnel job a security 781 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,160 policy job so I know an awful lot of 782 00:40:37,150 --> 00:40:33,839 classified information on a whole range 783 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:37,160 of subject some UFO but some for example 784 00:40:42,769 --> 00:40:40,170 counterterrorism and I have to be 785 00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:42,779 careful with all of it right and and the 786 00:40:48,529 --> 00:40:45,599 oath I signed in in one sense there's 787 00:40:51,259 --> 00:40:48,539 nothing unusual about it I signed it in 788 00:40:54,049 --> 00:40:51,269 common with any Ministry of Defence 789 00:40:56,539 --> 00:40:54,059 employee on my first day in government 790 00:41:00,229 --> 00:40:56,549 service and I actually signed a reminder 791 00:41:01,849 --> 00:41:00,239 on my last day you know just reminding 792 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:01,859 me of the fact that even though I was 793 00:41:07,009 --> 00:41:04,729 leaving this binds me for life so 794 00:41:08,749 --> 00:41:07,019 there's not really a way around it 795 00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:08,759 unless I was going to become a 796 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:10,979 whistleblower and I'm not I mean I I 797 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:14,130 don't approve generally of 798 00:41:17,959 --> 00:41:15,180 whistleblowing 799 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:17,969 because most times the people blowing 800 00:41:22,339 --> 00:41:20,880 the whistle on the information owners 801 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:22,349 they've they've come across information 802 00:41:26,689 --> 00:41:25,529 but they they don't own that information 803 00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:26,699 and therefore they haven't done the 804 00:41:30,979 --> 00:41:29,880 damage of assessment of what happens if 805 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:30,989 it gets out there and everyone always 806 00:41:35,269 --> 00:41:33,150 says to me well you know the people have 807 00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:35,279 a right to know but of course what they 808 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:37,049 sometimes forget is when you put it out 809 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:39,690 there it's not just the people it's the 810 00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:42,209 Russians the Chinese the Iranians the 811 00:41:47,479 --> 00:41:44,630 North Koreans its Isis it's everyone 812 00:41:51,019 --> 00:41:47,489 right right that's very interesting and 813 00:41:54,140 --> 00:41:51,029 most wouldn't look at that angle of it 814 00:41:56,269 --> 00:41:54,150 it's just like just just let it go let 815 00:41:58,459 --> 00:41:56,279 it out there but they don't understand 816 00:42:02,079 --> 00:41:58,469 the other implications that that are 817 00:42:05,299 --> 00:42:02,089 behind that and speaking of that these 818 00:42:07,219 --> 00:42:05,309 these days of disclosure that we're in 819 00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:07,229 well it certainly feels like it could 820 00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:10,049 have been the days of disclosure I'm not 821 00:42:16,009 --> 00:42:13,380 sure where we are right now but you have 822 00:42:17,979 --> 00:42:16,019 been pushing for and speaking about 823 00:42:21,759 --> 00:42:17,989 disclosure long before it was 824 00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:21,769 fashionable of a word as it is today is 825 00:42:27,499 --> 00:42:25,469 this form of disclosure that we have 826 00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:27,509 been going through since December 827 00:42:31,310 --> 00:42:31,049 is it your version of disclosure are in 828 00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:31,320 our 829 00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:32,700 you happy about the way things have 830 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:36,390 happened well I am moderately happy I 831 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:38,490 mean a you know we'll let's break this 832 00:42:42,530 --> 00:42:40,290 down I mean obviously your reference to 833 00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:42,540 December is is a reference to the 834 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:45,420 pentagon's program and I think when that 835 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:49,680 ended up not on some new-age website but 836 00:42:55,610 --> 00:42:52,530 in the New York Times and then in the 837 00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:55,620 post and right across the media it took 838 00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:58,800 this subject to a different level a 839 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:01,260 higher level it was suddenly I think 840 00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:04,110 okay to have a conversation about this 841 00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:06,780 and and that conversation is one that 842 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:08,940 we're still having there are still of 843 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:11,850 course a whole bunch of unanswered 844 00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:15,810 questions about this Pentagon program I 845 00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:17,910 mean heck we can't even quite agree on 846 00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:19,980 the name of it right right we have 847 00:43:25,370 --> 00:43:22,800 advanced aerospace threat identification 848 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:25,380 program advanced aviation threat 849 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:28,170 identification program now we find out 850 00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:30,410 that might be part of the advanced 851 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:33,720 aerospace weapon system applications 852 00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:37,290 program so if we can't even agree what 853 00:43:42,890 --> 00:43:40,860 this thing is called we really don't yet 854 00:43:45,950 --> 00:43:42,900 have a full idea of the terms of 855 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:45,960 reference and of course the outputs in 856 00:43:51,650 --> 00:43:48,660 in terms of the data then there's this 857 00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:51,660 complex relationship trying to untangle 858 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:54,600 how the Pentagon's program is related to 859 00:44:01,460 --> 00:43:58,530 work done by Bigelow Aerospace work done 860 00:44:04,070 --> 00:44:01,470 by the to the Stars Academy so there's a 861 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:04,080 lot of things that we still don't know 862 00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:07,050 but we are I think we have more 863 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:09,150 information than we did before 864 00:44:19,070 --> 00:44:12,480 December 16th and that's a good thing 865 00:44:23,090 --> 00:44:19,080 is it is it okay for the UFO community 866 00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:23,100 to I don't know if embrace is the right 867 00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:28,020 word but to accept this this Olive 868 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:29,400 Branch that appears to be happening 869 00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:32,070 right now with the Pentagon or is it not 870 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:36,900 real and would the mo D do the same 871 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:42,000 thing with the mo d buddy up with a UK 872 00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:42,570 you 873 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:44,220 a folk group and suddenly start 874 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:47,570 distributing gun camera videos 875 00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:51,630 well first off I I don't think any one 876 00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:54,180 person can speak for the UFO community 877 00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:56,700 so I mean I think people are free to to 878 00:45:02,300 --> 00:44:59,400 take this or leave this to be as 879 00:45:04,610 --> 00:45:02,310 accepting or a skeptical as they want I 880 00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:04,620 I'm not sure I would describe it as a 881 00:45:11,770 --> 00:45:08,040 Pentagon olive branch and certainly my 882 00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:11,780 information is that DoD and DIA 883 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:15,900 personnel involved in this those still 884 00:45:24,110 --> 00:45:19,730 in the system were somewhat at a loss 885 00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:24,120 caught out by by this and you know so I 886 00:45:30,350 --> 00:45:27,360 don't I I don't necessarily call this an 887 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:30,360 official initiative perhaps not even a 888 00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:34,290 quasi official initiative my my take for 889 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:36,510 what it's worth this is a bunch of 890 00:45:41,810 --> 00:45:39,330 people who looked at this issue from 891 00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:41,820 within government put some of that work 892 00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:45,920 out to contract to Bigelow Aerospace and 893 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:48,960 elsewhere but for a number of reasons I 894 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:52,290 think took that subject as far as they 895 00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:54,090 could within the system and they're now 896 00:45:58,370 --> 00:45:56,280 perhaps trying to take it forward 897 00:46:00,280 --> 00:45:58,380 outside of the system as to whether 898 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:00,290 anyone buys into this both 899 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:02,970 metaphorically and literally well that's 900 00:46:10,570 --> 00:46:05,850 that's up to them caveat emptor I guess 901 00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:10,580 I I think treat everything with caution 902 00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,540 anything in the government world 903 00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:14,880 anything in this world of deep 904 00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:19,020 classified programs is not always what 905 00:46:25,310 --> 00:46:23,310 it appears to be so so you know tread 906 00:46:27,940 --> 00:46:25,320 carefully as to where that the British 907 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:27,950 government would do it in a sense we did 908 00:46:34,310 --> 00:46:31,250 a couple of our highly classified 909 00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:34,320 programs were certainly put out to 910 00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:37,140 contract on this subject in the same way 911 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:37,950 that the DIA 912 00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:39,570 seems to have done with Bigelow 913 00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:43,260 Aerospace and others project condign is 914 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:46,200 a good example the classified 915 00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:48,810 intelligence assessment of the UFO 916 00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,910 phenomenon that was actually 917 00:46:55,610 --> 00:46:52,560 commissioned by the Defense Intelligence 918 00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:55,620 staff may actually helped set it up but 919 00:46:58,700 --> 00:46:56,460 it wasn't 920 00:47:01,790 --> 00:46:58,710 by the Defense Intelligence staff it was 921 00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:01,800 done by a contractor working for a 922 00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:04,920 defense company so so there is some 923 00:47:09,710 --> 00:47:07,470 precedent what I call all this you know 924 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:09,720 from previous discussions we've had I 925 00:47:15,260 --> 00:47:12,810 call this disclosure with a little D not 926 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:15,270 disclosure with a Big D disclosure with 927 00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:17,130 a big D is the president saying my 928 00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:18,660 fellow Americans people of the world 929 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:21,630 we're not alone this is this is not that 930 00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:23,970 scenario but it's it's certainly 931 00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:31,140 something and why why do you think it 932 00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:34,920 has chilled out and not so much with the 933 00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:38,670 community but the mainstream media which 934 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:41,070 for about six weeks there they had 935 00:47:48,140 --> 00:47:45,210 everything on the headlines is there is 936 00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:48,150 there an issue with the information or 937 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:51,030 the vetting process because they 938 00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:52,890 certainly got the clicks right they got 939 00:48:02,480 --> 00:47:57,359 all of the world you know talking about 940 00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:02,490 this but it seems to have died down is 941 00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:04,440 it because the guy the Pentagon isn't 942 00:48:09,950 --> 00:48:07,200 releasing stuff or maybe that the 943 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,960 mainstream media had their fun with it 944 00:48:14,109 --> 00:48:12,240 and and now we're back you know you know 945 00:48:19,060 --> 00:48:14,119 what I mean we're back to where we were 946 00:48:22,099 --> 00:48:19,070 yes I mean in one sense the big news was 947 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:22,109 although people are obviously focusing 948 00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:25,770 and we're a very visual eye I think and 949 00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,310 audio orientated society but people have 950 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:32,160 been focusing I would say over focusing 951 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:36,890 on those clips of Navy Jets chasing an 952 00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:39,810 unidentified object of some sort the 953 00:48:44,329 --> 00:48:41,550 real story of course was just the fact 954 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,339 that the Pentagon was doing this at all 955 00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:47,280 when previously if he went on to all the 956 00:48:52,310 --> 00:48:49,470 the various government websites that 957 00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:52,320 mentioned UFOs if you found anything at 958 00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,420 all it would usually say well we had 959 00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:56,880 this thing called Project Blue Book but 960 00:49:02,420 --> 00:48:59,760 we got out of that in 1969 and there's 961 00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:02,430 no longer any interest or research so 962 00:49:07,849 --> 00:49:05,040 the big story in a sense was hey that 963 00:49:10,279 --> 00:49:07,859 didn't actually turn out to be true and 964 00:49:12,529 --> 00:49:10,289 so when the media got over the shock 965 00:49:15,949 --> 00:49:12,539 of that the the interest of looking at 966 00:49:18,169 --> 00:49:15,959 these these two or three videos there is 967 00:49:21,319 --> 00:49:18,179 a kind of well where do we go from here 968 00:49:25,489 --> 00:49:21,329 question but unless you have a whole 969 00:49:29,059 --> 00:49:25,499 bunch more material to release analyses 970 00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:29,069 and documents from the program itself in 971 00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,380 a sense there's not much more that you 972 00:49:35,569 --> 00:49:33,599 can do and the New York Times has to be 973 00:49:37,609 --> 00:49:35,579 careful this was this was a big story 974 00:49:40,999 --> 00:49:37,619 but I think there's an old saying you 975 00:49:43,849 --> 00:49:41,009 know a lot of big stories don't find 976 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:43,859 their way into the post and the times 977 00:49:49,819 --> 00:49:47,609 for example because the times can't ever 978 00:49:52,219 --> 00:49:49,829 end up looking like The Enquirer great 979 00:49:56,269 --> 00:49:52,229 right right and it was dangerously close 980 00:49:59,179 --> 00:49:56,279 to that and I was very surprised and I 981 00:50:01,579 --> 00:49:59,189 do want to discuss religion here I was 982 00:50:05,329 --> 00:50:01,589 also very surprised that with this kind 983 00:50:07,069 --> 00:50:05,339 of explosive news you know with the New 984 00:50:10,609 --> 00:50:07,079 York Times and then of course CNN the 985 00:50:14,589 --> 00:50:10,619 BBC and Sky and RT everybody came along 986 00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:14,599 for the ride but one thing didn't happen 987 00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:17,369 religion didn't collapse the Vatican 988 00:50:21,919 --> 00:50:19,140 didn't freak out the New York Stock 989 00:50:24,229 --> 00:50:21,929 Exchange didn't implode there was no 990 00:50:26,809 --> 00:50:24,239 rioting in the streets which is what we 991 00:50:30,799 --> 00:50:26,819 were told was what was gonna happen and 992 00:50:35,059 --> 00:50:30,809 it seemed like we took it in stride and 993 00:50:40,099 --> 00:50:35,069 I found that interesting didn't you yes 994 00:50:42,859 --> 00:50:40,109 now back in 2010 in the UK there were a 995 00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:42,869 couple of Royal Society discussion 996 00:50:49,099 --> 00:50:46,140 meetings that looked at the societal 997 00:50:51,229 --> 00:50:49,109 consequences if we discussed if we 998 00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:51,239 discover extraterrestrial life one of 999 00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:53,849 the big conclusions was that there 1000 00:50:58,729 --> 00:50:56,640 probably wouldn't be the big societal 1001 00:51:00,890 --> 00:50:58,739 shock that people sometimes talk about 1002 00:51:01,459 --> 00:51:00,900 all these cliches of panic in the 1003 00:51:04,969 --> 00:51:01,469 streets 1004 00:51:07,939 --> 00:51:04,979 run for the hills collapse the world 1005 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:07,949 economic system undermine the major 1006 00:51:13,489 --> 00:51:10,650 religions none of those things would 1007 00:51:16,669 --> 00:51:13,499 actually happen certainly according to 1008 00:51:18,289 --> 00:51:16,679 the scientists who've looked at a few of 1009 00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,299 these things from within their 1010 00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:20,880 respective fields of psychology for 1011 00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:24,000 example and but religion is back 1012 00:51:29,810 --> 00:51:26,910 the news just today on this very story 1013 00:51:33,110 --> 00:51:29,820 because there was a newspaper article in 1014 00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:33,120 a UK national daily paper which talked 1015 00:51:38,810 --> 00:51:36,150 about how both in the Ministry of 1016 00:51:41,090 --> 00:51:38,820 Defense UFO project and in the 1017 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:41,100 Pentagon's program there was some 1018 00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:43,650 pushback actually over the religion 1019 00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:47,220 issue not because people were fearing a 1020 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:50,550 public backlash but because senior 1021 00:51:54,740 --> 00:51:52,290 Pentagon and Ministry of Defense 1022 00:51:58,060 --> 00:51:54,750 officials with deeply held religious 1023 00:52:00,560 --> 00:51:58,070 convictions just were deeply deeply 1024 00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:00,570 uncomfortable with the implications of 1025 00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:04,680 the UFO phenomenon the the rumor on the 1026 00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:06,390 streets and I'm gonna stay on this 1027 00:52:14,540 --> 00:52:11,040 religious aspect of it that there were 1028 00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:14,550 some inside of the Pentagon and the MIAA 1029 00:52:23,810 --> 00:52:19,440 and and DoD that were using words like 1030 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:23,820 demonic right and that's a pretty crazy 1031 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:26,850 way now is that a is that a Christian 1032 00:52:31,820 --> 00:52:29,490 fundamentalist take on it or do you 1033 00:52:35,450 --> 00:52:31,830 think they actually have some kind of 1034 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:35,460 information that that may lean that way 1035 00:52:40,550 --> 00:52:37,530 and look we don't understand really 1036 00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:40,560 what's going on so for them to use these 1037 00:52:46,340 --> 00:52:43,140 kinds of words either they know 1038 00:52:51,350 --> 00:52:46,350 something or maybe it's just based on 1039 00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:51,360 belief and a fear well yes absolutely 1040 00:52:59,300 --> 00:52:55,280 this this was I think something that did 1041 00:53:02,080 --> 00:52:59,310 come back to certain people's religious 1042 00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:02,090 views Christian I would say 1043 00:53:07,010 --> 00:53:05,100 fundamentalist yeah I didn't ever think 1044 00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:07,020 I'd end up quoting the Bible with you 1045 00:53:16,070 --> 00:53:11,640 know no there's a there's a passage in 1046 00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:16,080 Ephesians where it talks about Satan as 1047 00:53:23,350 --> 00:53:19,680 being and this is the the direct quote 1048 00:53:27,290 --> 00:53:23,360 the Prince of the power of the air and 1049 00:53:29,450 --> 00:53:27,300 I've heard that bandied around before by 1050 00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,460 people within government and the 1051 00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:31,200 intelligence community who've looked at 1052 00:53:37,490 --> 00:53:34,680 the UFO phenomena and yes even though it 1053 00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:37,500 was quite a dramatic headline it's 1054 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,260 true there really do seem to be some 1055 00:53:44,810 --> 00:53:42,480 people both at the Pentagon who were 1056 00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:44,820 looking at this and at the mo D who 1057 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:47,910 thought that this was satanic demonic 1058 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:51,570 mm-hm and that was why or it was one of 1059 00:53:56,810 --> 00:53:54,450 the reasons why there was pushback Louis 1060 00:53:59,600 --> 00:53:56,820 Elizondo talked about this it was a 1061 00:54:02,060 --> 00:53:59,610 little throwaway line in in a one of his 1062 00:54:04,730 --> 00:54:02,070 interviews somewhere but he said it was 1063 00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:04,740 it was the religious worldview of some 1064 00:54:09,740 --> 00:54:07,080 of these people but that said well maybe 1065 00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:09,750 this just can't be or maybe if it is 1066 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:12,300 it's demonic and it isn't something we 1067 00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:17,010 should be looking at DeLong said on this 1068 00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,430 program last year sometime just that he 1069 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:25,200 had said and we were doing a 1070 00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:26,850 cat-and-mouse back and forth right I'm 1071 00:54:32,330 --> 00:54:28,950 trying to pull information out of him 1072 00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:32,340 and he certainly been a victim of that 1073 00:54:37,820 --> 00:54:34,800 with me Nick in the past and so you know 1074 00:54:41,180 --> 00:54:37,830 when it's fun and as I was getting more 1075 00:54:43,580 --> 00:54:41,190 more information out of him he I had 1076 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:43,590 said then what are you suggesting here 1077 00:54:50,210 --> 00:54:48,930 tom is the are UFOs religious and he 1078 00:54:52,070 --> 00:54:50,220 goes bingo 1079 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:52,080 I believe I'm paraphrasing but he goes 1080 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:53,730 bingo I said what do you mean well you 1081 00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:56,970 know be careful about what you are 1082 00:55:04,070 --> 00:55:00,960 communicating with when you see the UAP 1083 00:55:07,820 --> 00:55:04,080 or UFO because it may not be what you 1084 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:07,830 think it is and I thought wow and you 1085 00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:10,410 know and he was he was saying that his 1086 00:55:16,130 --> 00:55:13,260 insiders have given him this information 1087 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:16,140 that's a pretty heavy statement isn't it 1088 00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:17,970 and certainly that would change a 1089 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:21,120 worldview it is a heavy statement and 1090 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:24,290 it's I think in one sense it's an 1091 00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:28,050 unhelpful extra layer of complexity 1092 00:55:36,310 --> 00:55:32,640 mm-hmm over this already complex subject 1093 00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:36,320 if you have to factor in not as I say 1094 00:55:41,090 --> 00:55:38,760 anyone worried that releasing this 1095 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:41,100 information is going to impact the world 1096 00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:43,530 religions in some way but just the fact 1097 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:46,110 that the people handling policy for this 1098 00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:49,050 subject within government think like 1099 00:55:52,740 --> 00:55:49,990 that 1100 00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:52,750 did you arrive I've got to take a break 1101 00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:56,559 here in about 90 seconds did you I know 1102 00:56:01,859 --> 00:55:58,930 you probably read childhoods end 1103 00:56:04,049 --> 00:56:01,869 did you see the three part or four-part 1104 00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:04,059 miniseries the movie that they made I 1105 00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:10,089 did not okay well in that et looks like 1106 00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:13,089 the devil right he's got wings he's in 1107 00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:16,089 the full-on hubs he's red 1108 00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:18,940 he's got the horns and he's big and he's 1109 00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:20,559 intimidating but he's a pretty nice guy 1110 00:56:30,089 --> 00:56:27,119 right so we he communicates behind this 1111 00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:30,099 two-way mirror right so nobody can see 1112 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:31,119 what he looks like 1113 00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:33,250 because they don't want to cause world 1114 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:38,079 panic ah and that's what I find 1115 00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,450 interesting too as well and so when I 1116 00:56:46,290 --> 00:56:42,960 think about that Nick do you think maybe 1117 00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:46,300 some of this maybe some of this fear may 1118 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:50,440 be science fiction based yes absolutely 1119 00:56:55,859 --> 00:56:53,290 and there's a hugely complex two-way 1120 00:56:59,630 --> 00:56:55,869 street relationship between sci-fi and 1121 00:57:02,730 --> 00:56:59,640 ufology but that's a whole other story 1122 00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:02,740 alright let's take our break right here 1123 00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:04,270 and we'll pick up right where we left 1124 00:57:08,510 --> 00:57:05,920 off always great to have you on the show 1125 00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:08,520 and we'll certainly talk about 1126 00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:10,470 contacting the desert which you'll be 1127 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:12,910 talking about out there in just three 1128 00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:16,450 short weeks and Nick will be back with 1129 00:57:19,859 --> 00:57:18,190 this when it is Thursday night right 1130 00:57:23,010 --> 00:57:19,869 Nick you're gonna man the phones with me 1131 00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:23,020 here yes it's gonna be great this is 1132 00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:24,760 fade to black our guest tonight Nick 1133 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:26,319 Pope I'm your host Jimmy Church we'll be 1134 00:57:29,630 --> 00:57:27,970 right back after this short break stay 1135 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:29,640 with us 1136 00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:39,910 [Music] 1137 00:57:47,859 --> 00:57:41,910 [Applause] 1138 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:47,869 [Music] 1139 00:57:54,109 --> 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graylien report and you're listening to 1195 01:00:56,819 --> 01:00:54,970 Jimmy church on fade to black across the 1196 01:00:59,460 --> 01:00:56,829 globe on the game-changer radio network 1197 01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:59,470 and the one and only kgr a radio the 1198 01:01:15,860 --> 01:01:00,480 planet 1199 01:01:22,910 --> 01:01:20,620 [Music] 1200 01:01:25,069 --> 01:01:22,920 welcome back fade to black I'm the OCME 1201 01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:25,079 Church our guest tonight Nick Pope and 1202 01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:26,609 this segment of fade to black has 1203 01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:28,230 proudly brought to you by River moon 1204 01:01:35,029 --> 01:01:31,710 coffee makers of the fade to black blend 1205 01:01:38,539 --> 01:01:35,039 promo code f2b blend will get you 50% 1206 01:01:40,279 --> 01:01:38,549 off of your order today our guest 1207 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:40,289 tonight Nick Pope and Nick right before 1208 01:01:48,109 --> 01:01:44,970 the break but talking about religion one 1209 01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:48,119 of the things that I like to contemplate 1210 01:01:54,859 --> 01:01:51,839 is look it's the universe and there 1211 01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:54,869 could be a creator of everything that 1212 01:02:00,650 --> 01:01:57,390 could be what everybody is referencing 1213 01:02:05,509 --> 01:02:00,660 as God okay I'm actually ok with that 1214 01:02:08,180 --> 01:02:05,519 but if if that is indeed the case who we 1215 01:02:10,940 --> 01:02:08,190 look at as God here it's got to be the 1216 01:02:13,579 --> 01:02:10,950 same in Zeta Reticuli right it's got to 1217 01:02:15,890 --> 01:02:13,589 be the same in Alpha Centauri or any 1218 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:15,900 other many other planets out there that 1219 01:02:22,220 --> 01:02:19,170 may have life on it they would 1220 01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:22,230 experience the same thing I would have 1221 01:02:31,089 --> 01:02:25,980 to think and I'm safe in thinking that 1222 01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:31,099 so if that is the case could ET actually 1223 01:02:37,309 --> 01:02:34,529 represent that type of situation where 1224 01:02:39,470 --> 01:02:37,319 maybe that could be the creator of the 1225 01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:39,480 universe that could be our God and we 1226 01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,720 don't know it yet in that reference well 1227 01:02:47,900 --> 01:02:44,400 I'm not sure about that speaking 1228 01:02:51,019 --> 01:02:47,910 personally I am actually an atheist so I 1229 01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:51,029 I would say no to that I think what if 1230 01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:53,910 we find other civilizations in the 1231 01:02:58,579 --> 01:02:56,099 universe what we might well find is a 1232 01:03:00,289 --> 01:02:58,589 whole bunch of them have different 1233 01:03:03,740 --> 01:03:00,299 religions just as we have different 1234 01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:03,750 religions here on earth we might find a 1235 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:06,720 whole bunch of civilizations have put 1236 01:03:11,749 --> 01:03:08,970 religion behind them and regarded as 1237 01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:11,759 superstition so right you know I suspect 1238 01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:14,460 we'll find we'll find a whole bunch of 1239 01:03:19,220 --> 01:03:16,230 different things out there in the cosmos 1240 01:03:22,009 --> 01:03:19,230 when it comes to belief but what we'll 1241 01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:22,019 find in terms of actuality I don't know 1242 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:24,960 now what are you gonna do you and I are 1243 01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,690 out or in contact in the desert on the 1244 01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:29,760 day you and I are walking 1245 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:34,680 and and and suddenly this craft lands in 1246 01:03:39,140 --> 01:03:36,330 front of us and you and I are standing 1247 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:39,150 there and the ladder comes at you know 1248 01:03:43,010 --> 01:03:41,490 and et starts stepping off and we're 1249 01:03:44,930 --> 01:03:43,020 looking at its feet and you and I are 1250 01:03:46,940 --> 01:03:44,940 like wow this is incredible Church it's 1251 01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:46,950 you and I here we go 1252 01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:50,790 the first contact and Jesus walks off 1253 01:03:58,940 --> 01:03:55,920 the craft I don't even know what I would 1254 01:04:01,340 --> 01:03:58,950 do but well my you know I I would say 1255 01:04:03,770 --> 01:04:01,350 how how do we know it's Jesus I mean 1256 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:03,780 we've we've got we've got but I suppose 1257 01:04:07,820 --> 01:04:05,970 a scenario typical idea of what Jesus 1258 01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:07,830 looks like from from a few Hollywood 1259 01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:10,710 movies and things right actually yeah if 1260 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:12,510 you look at the artwork across the world 1261 01:04:16,460 --> 01:04:14,010 and things there are even different 1262 01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:16,470 versions there so so just because 1263 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:18,900 someone comes out of a spaceship and 1264 01:04:23,210 --> 01:04:21,090 looks like our version of Jesus from a 1265 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:23,220 movie I'm I'm not gonna think that's 1266 01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:25,290 Jesus I'm gonna think okay that's an 1267 01:04:29,060 --> 01:04:27,000 extraterrestrial and I've got a whole 1268 01:04:31,490 --> 01:04:29,070 bunch of questions I know and your first 1269 01:04:33,590 --> 01:04:31,500 thing is gonna be you know hi I'm Nick 1270 01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:33,600 this is Jimmy and you shake his hand and 1271 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:40,470 goes hey I'm uh I'm hey Seuss but the 1272 01:04:48,650 --> 01:04:45,170 reason why when I look at guys like 1273 01:04:51,710 --> 01:04:48,660 Richard Dawkins right and he's got his 1274 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:51,720 thing you know Darwin and and he is just 1275 01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:53,250 adamant about it and he's got it 1276 01:05:01,550 --> 01:04:59,520 legions of followers and fans but I look 1277 01:05:04,130 --> 01:05:01,560 at it a little bit differently in that 1278 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:04,140 not in a religious way at all but that 1279 01:05:09,530 --> 01:05:06,450 the universe is really old you know 1280 01:05:13,370 --> 01:05:09,540 possibly infinite you know situations 1281 01:05:16,460 --> 01:05:13,380 here of age and there could be an 1282 01:05:19,220 --> 01:05:16,470 intelligence out there that has grown so 1283 01:05:22,130 --> 01:05:19,230 intelligent over billions of years that 1284 01:05:24,830 --> 01:05:22,140 we don't even understand that and we 1285 01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:24,840 can't relate to it but thousands of 1286 01:05:32,660 --> 01:05:29,280 years ago that intelligence may may have 1287 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:32,670 been interpreted as religious or God and 1288 01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:36,410 here we are today 2,000 years later and 1289 01:05:41,660 --> 01:05:38,550 3,000 years later four thousand years 1290 01:05:43,370 --> 01:05:41,670 later and it's now called religion when 1291 01:05:46,370 --> 01:05:43,380 it has nothing to do with that 1292 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:46,380 yes I mean in a sense what what you're 1293 01:05:50,780 --> 01:05:48,210 discussing isn't a million miles 1294 01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:50,790 different from I guess ancient astronaut 1295 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:53,760 theory you know I would characterize it 1296 01:06:00,020 --> 01:05:56,250 a slightly different way arthur c clarke 1297 01:06:02,990 --> 01:06:00,030 of course has that very famous quote 1298 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:03,000 which is any sufficiently advanced 1299 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:05,730 technology is indistinguishable from 1300 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:08,490 magic uh true i would turn that around 1301 01:06:14,570 --> 01:06:10,890 and and in the light of what you just 1302 01:06:16,460 --> 01:06:14,580 said and say any sufficiently advanced 1303 01:06:19,970 --> 01:06:16,470 life-form would be indistinguishable 1304 01:06:22,790 --> 01:06:19,980 from god right i mean in other words is 1305 01:06:25,340 --> 01:06:22,800 it is it possible to imagine a 1306 01:06:28,820 --> 01:06:25,350 civilization so advanced that it might 1307 01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:28,830 be able to turn water into wine and and 1308 01:06:35,630 --> 01:06:31,470 raise the dead and do those sorts of 1309 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:35,640 things yes absolutely why not that's now 1310 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:39,210 does that make it God I would say no it 1311 01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:43,170 makes it like our very human concept of 1312 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:46,140 what a God should be you're saying that 1313 01:06:52,070 --> 01:06:50,490 so in such a profound way that it sounds 1314 01:06:54,140 --> 01:06:52,080 like you're breaking your security oath 1315 01:06:57,050 --> 01:06:54,150 do you know something 1316 01:06:58,940 --> 01:06:57,060 you know I totally agree with you I 1317 01:07:02,300 --> 01:06:58,950 totally and in fact I think I'm gonna 1318 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:02,310 steal what you just said alright so I'm 1319 01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:04,050 just worried hey I'm letting you know in 1320 01:07:09,110 --> 01:07:07,110 advance so when you hear later that I 1321 01:07:13,090 --> 01:07:09,120 stole it you can say well he told me he 1322 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:13,100 was going to let's talk about alien tech 1323 01:07:20,450 --> 01:07:16,890 and the reason why I think this is so 1324 01:07:22,070 --> 01:07:20,460 important certainly there is something 1325 01:07:24,620 --> 01:07:22,080 going on with this phenomena that we 1326 01:07:26,930 --> 01:07:24,630 don't understand and when I witnessed 1327 01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:26,940 the things that I have seen in the skies 1328 01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:30,900 I don't know if it's ours or theirs that 1329 01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:33,150 you know I don't know but it's certainly 1330 01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:35,670 a technology that I don't understand and 1331 01:07:40,270 --> 01:07:37,830 one that hasn't been presented to the 1332 01:07:44,330 --> 01:07:40,280 public or to the world if it is ours 1333 01:07:46,610 --> 01:07:44,340 what do you think is going on there well 1334 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:46,620 I think in a situation where we can make 1335 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:49,610 very few assumptions about 1336 01:07:54,490 --> 01:07:52,170 extraterrestrials you know who they are 1337 01:07:56,410 --> 01:07:54,500 why they might come to earth 1338 01:07:58,780 --> 01:07:56,420 what technology they might have I think 1339 01:08:00,550 --> 01:07:58,790 one of the very few really good 1340 01:08:03,010 --> 01:08:00,560 assumptions that we can make is that 1341 01:08:05,830 --> 01:08:03,020 their technology will be more advanced 1342 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:05,840 than ours self-evidently because they 1343 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:08,090 come to us and we can't get to them the 1344 01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:11,210 other thing is that part and parcel of 1345 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:13,760 that technology of course will will be I 1346 01:08:19,570 --> 01:08:16,250 guess the really big thing that I would 1347 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:19,580 be interested in the technology behind 1348 01:08:24,519 --> 01:08:22,130 interstellar travel and I'm talking 1349 01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:24,529 about viable interstellar travel not 1350 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:27,230 sending our space probes at a speed that 1351 01:08:31,870 --> 01:08:29,290 might get them to the nearest star in 1352 01:08:33,789 --> 01:08:31,880 70,000 years I'm talking about something 1353 01:08:37,329 --> 01:08:33,799 a little bit quicker and easier than 1354 01:08:39,809 --> 01:08:37,339 that so so exotic propulsion systems and 1355 01:08:48,579 --> 01:08:39,819 energy sources that sort of thing 1356 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:48,589 the the photograph that you used to have 1357 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:50,770 in your office the one that disappeared 1358 01:08:56,050 --> 01:08:54,770 yes okay and for those out there if 1359 01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:56,060 you're wondering what we're talking 1360 01:08:59,890 --> 01:08:58,130 about we're not gonna revisit the entire 1361 01:09:02,110 --> 01:08:59,900 story but you can go back and listen to 1362 01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:02,120 some of Nyx up previous appearances on 1363 01:09:09,550 --> 01:09:05,080 this program and get that but that 1364 01:09:11,289 --> 01:09:09,560 photograph do you think that that I want 1365 01:09:12,970 --> 01:09:11,299 you to go back to your memory do you 1366 01:09:15,820 --> 01:09:12,980 think that that photograph represents 1367 01:09:19,930 --> 01:09:15,830 the et tech that I'm referencing right 1368 01:09:22,150 --> 01:09:19,940 now it might on the other hand you know 1369 01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:22,160 you could look at that photo and I've 1370 01:09:27,820 --> 01:09:24,319 been involved in a fairly realistic 1371 01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:27,830 recreation of it and that's out there we 1372 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:31,520 did that for a TV show but it could 1373 01:09:38,530 --> 01:09:35,210 simply be a very advanced secret 1374 01:09:40,450 --> 01:09:38,540 prototype spy plane or drone now I I 1375 01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:40,460 don't think so for a number of reasons 1376 01:09:46,510 --> 01:09:43,759 and and it was my predecessor who did 1377 01:09:51,519 --> 01:09:46,520 the investigation into that at the mo DS 1378 01:09:53,530 --> 01:09:51,529 UFO project not me but you know still 1379 01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,540 some unanswered questions on that and of 1380 01:09:59,380 --> 01:09:55,760 course until the photo turns up again we 1381 01:10:02,620 --> 01:09:59,390 probably won't know for sure the videos 1382 01:10:04,930 --> 01:10:02,630 that the three videos that we've all 1383 01:10:06,009 --> 01:10:04,940 seen that have surfaced 1384 01:10:08,379 --> 01:10:06,019 they've been out on the 1385 01:10:10,839 --> 01:10:08,389 for a long time and and so forth but 1386 01:10:15,220 --> 01:10:10,849 they're certainly intriguing videos in 1387 01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:15,230 your time at the mo D did you see any 1388 01:10:22,569 --> 01:10:19,400 gun camera footage from the RAF that 1389 01:10:26,259 --> 01:10:22,579 raised eyebrows for you like these three 1390 01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:26,269 videos have yes but in one sense you 1391 01:10:31,029 --> 01:10:28,369 know it didn't really tell me much more 1392 01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:31,039 than I can learn by looking at these 1393 01:10:36,459 --> 01:10:33,619 these Pentagon videos yes they're 1394 01:10:38,890 --> 01:10:36,469 interesting it tells us that military 1395 01:10:41,620 --> 01:10:38,900 pilots sometimes see things they can't 1396 01:10:43,660 --> 01:10:41,630 identify and sometimes chase them but 1397 01:10:44,129 --> 01:10:43,670 doesn't really tell us much more than 1398 01:10:48,220 --> 01:10:44,139 that 1399 01:10:50,830 --> 01:10:48,230 and a number of the other people 1400 01:10:53,020 --> 01:10:50,840 involved in this have have gone into a 1401 01:10:54,970 --> 01:10:53,030 bit more detail and and that is 1402 01:10:57,459 --> 01:10:54,980 interesting but yes I've seen those 1403 01:11:00,609 --> 01:10:57,469 things in one sense it gets to the 1404 01:11:03,790 --> 01:11:00,619 central frustration of this the more 1405 01:11:05,649 --> 01:11:03,800 data we get the more questions we have 1406 01:11:09,459 --> 01:11:05,659 and we don't often find our way to an 1407 01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:09,469 answer then those three I just want your 1408 01:11:16,450 --> 01:11:12,800 opinion because of your knowledge of 1409 01:11:19,839 --> 01:11:16,460 this in those three videos that were 1410 01:11:21,250 --> 01:11:19,849 released did they what did you think of 1411 01:11:23,589 --> 01:11:21,260 them do you think that you were looking 1412 01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:23,599 at something not of this earth or do you 1413 01:11:30,220 --> 01:11:25,550 think it was something you know much 1414 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:30,230 more simple and and earthbound I don't 1415 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:32,210 know when I did this for the Ministry of 1416 01:11:38,979 --> 01:11:36,650 Defence I had imagery analysis resources 1417 01:11:41,649 --> 01:11:38,989 and capabilities available to me that I 1418 01:11:43,839 --> 01:11:41,659 don't have access to now both in terms 1419 01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:43,849 of computer programs and of course the 1420 01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:48,800 the human intelligence personnel doing 1421 01:11:53,290 --> 01:11:50,960 this this sort of job so I know what I 1422 01:11:55,140 --> 01:11:53,300 don't know and I could not look at those 1423 01:11:57,549 --> 01:11:55,150 videos and give you an informed 1424 01:11:59,890 --> 01:11:57,559 interpretation what I will say is this I 1425 01:12:01,689 --> 01:11:59,900 didn't look at them and say my goodness 1426 01:12:03,729 --> 01:12:01,699 this absolutely has to be 1427 01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:03,739 extraterrestrial because it can't be 1428 01:12:08,799 --> 01:12:05,840 anything else we simply couldn't do that 1429 01:12:10,509 --> 01:12:08,809 I was not you know that impressed 1430 01:12:16,629 --> 01:12:10,519 looking at them to make that assumption 1431 01:12:18,490 --> 01:12:16,639 and were there when I want you to going 1432 01:12:22,810 --> 01:12:18,500 back to what you saw the mo D 1433 01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:22,820 were there similar things in the gun 1434 01:12:28,030 --> 01:12:25,030 camera footage that you saw at the MOT 1435 01:12:32,410 --> 01:12:28,040 that reminded you of what was in this 1436 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:32,420 footage yes and indeed a lot of what I 1437 01:12:39,010 --> 01:12:35,210 saw was radar rather than visual but 1438 01:12:41,170 --> 01:12:39,020 there was some some visual too and and 1439 01:12:43,540 --> 01:12:41,180 you know it was interesting but it 1440 01:12:46,210 --> 01:12:43,550 didn't necessarily take us to any firm 1441 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:46,220 conclusion and by the way I should say 1442 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:48,130 and this is another part of all this 1443 01:12:55,390 --> 01:12:51,530 discussion the Ministry of Defense is in 1444 01:12:58,090 --> 01:12:55,400 the final stages of declassifying and 1445 01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:58,100 releasing its its UFO files and and 1446 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:00,320 that's a process I've been involved with 1447 01:13:04,180 --> 01:13:02,930 and when the last files are out there I 1448 01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:04,190 might be able to say a little bit more 1449 01:13:10,150 --> 01:13:07,280 but again this is part of disclosure 1450 01:13:13,210 --> 01:13:10,160 with a little D the Ministry of Defense 1451 01:13:16,810 --> 01:13:13,220 and then the National Archives in the UK 1452 01:13:18,940 --> 01:13:16,820 is slowly but surely putting out all the 1453 01:13:23,410 --> 01:13:18,950 files that I was working on when I was 1454 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:23,420 doing that job so so in a sense every 1455 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:26,690 day that that comes at the moment it 1456 01:13:31,780 --> 01:13:28,730 seems to be a new story about my old mo 1457 01:13:33,580 --> 01:13:31,790 D job in in the media and and the more 1458 01:13:36,250 --> 01:13:33,590 that's out there the more I'll be able 1459 01:13:40,450 --> 01:13:36,260 to say so interesting times 1460 01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:40,460 what okay now let's let's do some rapid 1461 01:13:44,530 --> 01:13:43,760 fire questions here and and let's have 1462 01:13:46,990 --> 01:13:44,540 some fun with this 1463 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:47,000 what's the mo DS official position have 1464 01:13:53,530 --> 01:13:50,090 we made contact with ET have nay made 1465 01:13:56,350 --> 01:13:53,540 contact with ET know before they 1466 01:13:59,620 --> 01:13:56,360 formally terminated their UFO program in 1467 01:14:02,940 --> 01:13:59,630 2009 the official position of the mo D 1468 01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:02,950 was that most of these sightings are 1469 01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:05,450 misidentifications some can't be 1470 01:14:12,190 --> 01:14:08,960 explained but they take no position on 1471 01:14:13,540 --> 01:14:12,200 those unexplained cases they don't say 1472 01:14:14,710 --> 01:14:13,550 that they're extraterrestrial but 1473 01:14:20,260 --> 01:14:14,720 neither do they rule out that 1474 01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:20,270 possibility do does the mo D believe 1475 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:23,260 that there is life out there and we are 1476 01:14:27,460 --> 01:14:27,050 being visited or have visited in the 1477 01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:27,470 past 1478 01:14:31,159 --> 01:14:30,590 no the mo D took no formal position on 1479 01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:31,169 that 1480 01:14:43,149 --> 01:14:39,689 I had to put out to Parliament the media 1481 01:14:46,699 --> 01:14:43,159 and the public the line was that we 1482 01:14:49,250 --> 01:14:46,709 effectively have an open mind on such 1483 01:14:51,229 --> 01:14:49,260 questions but take no formal position on 1484 01:14:54,409 --> 01:14:51,239 it you have been involved with 1485 01:14:57,979 --> 01:14:54,419 Rendlesham nearly since the very 1486 01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:57,989 beginning and you've had you've got 1487 01:15:02,389 --> 01:14:59,760 relationships out there that are 1488 01:15:05,049 --> 01:15:02,399 long-standing but that and and your book 1489 01:15:08,469 --> 01:15:05,059 is amazing but putting that to the side 1490 01:15:12,949 --> 01:15:08,479 what is the mo Dee's position on 1491 01:15:15,169 --> 01:15:12,959 Rendlesham today has it changed yes and 1492 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:15,179 no now that's a real government official 1493 01:15:23,509 --> 01:15:18,050 answer for you the the official position 1494 01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:23,519 was always that this this incident was 1495 01:15:29,779 --> 01:15:27,209 looked at but no evidence was was found 1496 01:15:33,799 --> 01:15:29,789 of anything of any defense significance 1497 01:15:36,379 --> 01:15:33,809 that said they they took the view the 1498 01:15:42,049 --> 01:15:36,389 official line was that yes the the case 1499 01:15:45,109 --> 01:15:42,059 was still unexplained however with the 1500 01:15:47,659 --> 01:15:45,119 declassification and release of the 1501 01:15:52,189 --> 01:15:47,669 intelligence assessment I mentioned 1502 01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:52,199 earlier project condign there was a a 1503 01:15:58,489 --> 01:15:54,719 new admission to that and there was a 1504 01:16:01,159 --> 01:15:58,499 there was a throwaway line in in project 1505 01:16:03,049 --> 01:16:01,169 condign where it said that the 1506 01:16:06,409 --> 01:16:03,059 Rendlesham forest incident was a case 1507 01:16:10,909 --> 01:16:06,419 where it might be postulated that people 1508 01:16:13,310 --> 01:16:10,919 were exposed to UAP radiation for longer 1509 01:16:15,739 --> 01:16:13,320 time periods than would normally be the 1510 01:16:18,500 --> 01:16:15,749 case and that was a direct you know that 1511 01:16:21,109 --> 01:16:18,510 was in this highly classified 1512 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:21,119 intelligence assessment of the UFO 1513 01:16:26,209 --> 01:16:23,130 phenomena and that's one of the reasons 1514 01:16:29,870 --> 01:16:26,219 that John burrows through with the 1515 01:16:32,029 --> 01:16:29,880 assistance of his attorney Pat fresco 1516 01:16:34,609 --> 01:16:32,039 NIA but also with the assistance of 1517 01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:34,619 Senator McCain and Senator McHale and 1518 01:16:38,389 --> 01:16:36,719 some of their staffers that's how John 1519 01:16:41,689 --> 01:16:38,399 burrows was able to get his VA 1520 01:16:43,819 --> 01:16:41,699 settlement because of that line in that 1521 01:16:45,759 --> 01:16:43,829 Ministry of Defense in 1522 01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:45,769 intelligence assessment project condign 1523 01:16:52,459 --> 01:16:49,169 the reason why i have to ask about the 1524 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:52,469 mo d--'s official position that one line 1525 01:16:59,299 --> 01:16:54,570 which i have talked to you both publicly 1526 01:17:04,549 --> 01:16:59,309 and privately about is i don't interpret 1527 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:04,559 that any other way than knowledge of not 1528 01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:09,449 only ETS and UFOs and you ApS but their 1529 01:17:17,959 --> 01:17:12,329 effects and they are aware of it and 1530 01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:17,969 they are basing it on previous data and 1531 01:17:25,819 --> 01:17:21,689 I think it's very clear there is that a 1532 01:17:28,849 --> 01:17:25,829 mistake on the mo DS part to to make it 1533 01:17:31,969 --> 01:17:28,859 so obvious about aliens but not speak 1534 01:17:35,509 --> 01:17:31,979 about a publicly I'm surprised they 1535 01:17:37,639 --> 01:17:35,519 didn't redact that part of the report to 1536 01:17:39,319 --> 01:17:37,649 be honest but there's always a get out 1537 01:17:41,689 --> 01:17:39,329 cause and if you look carefully you'll 1538 01:17:43,639 --> 01:17:41,699 see that they use the phrase they 1539 01:17:46,429 --> 01:17:43,649 preface that remark with might be 1540 01:17:49,459 --> 01:17:46,439 postulated that so that there's always a 1541 01:17:52,699 --> 01:17:49,469 way out to say yes we think they were 1542 01:17:54,859 --> 01:17:52,709 irradiated by something but you know 1543 01:17:57,229 --> 01:17:54,869 this is just a theory and of course 1544 01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,239 they're not actually saying what came 1545 01:18:01,879 --> 01:18:00,239 out and did that not it was having said 1546 01:18:06,349 --> 01:18:01,889 that of course it was enough for the VA 1547 01:18:09,020 --> 01:18:06,359 to settle yeah it was and and they the 1548 01:18:12,589 --> 01:18:09,030 way that they I think they use the word 1549 01:18:15,889 --> 01:18:12,599 exceed and they used the word data and 1550 01:18:17,899 --> 01:18:15,899 and UAP in that sentence now that the 1551 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:17,909 paragraph is more complete if you read 1552 01:18:23,389 --> 01:18:19,530 the whole paragraph to me I think it is 1553 01:18:27,709 --> 01:18:23,399 just it's just as explosive as what 1554 01:18:29,659 --> 01:18:27,719 happened on December 16th 2017 oh it is 1555 01:18:32,449 --> 01:18:29,669 and and it's important to say that if 1556 01:18:35,659 --> 01:18:32,459 you look at that VA decision they 1557 01:18:37,609 --> 01:18:35,669 actually psyched project condign final 1558 01:18:39,169 --> 01:18:37,619 report as being one of the documents 1559 01:18:41,449 --> 01:18:39,179 that they assessed in making their 1560 01:18:43,279 --> 01:18:41,459 decision so for anyone who says well 1561 01:18:47,899 --> 01:18:43,289 it's not really a link oh yes there is 1562 01:18:52,839 --> 01:18:47,909 yeah now what do we do with what do we 1563 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:52,849 do with these sightings that that happen 1564 01:18:58,700 --> 01:18:55,770 nearly all the time and certainly 1565 01:19:00,890 --> 01:18:58,710 night vision you know we can go out and 1566 01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:00,900 have these sky watches you know out it 1567 01:19:04,210 --> 01:19:02,760 contacts in the desert these different 1568 01:19:07,550 --> 01:19:04,220 get-togethers and we're looking and 1569 01:19:10,490 --> 01:19:07,560 something zigzags through the sky and 1570 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:10,500 what looks like a plasma light ball 1571 01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:14,930 thing why what what do we do with that 1572 01:19:20,180 --> 01:19:17,760 and what I mean by that is it's 1573 01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:20,190 obviously happening up there and these 1574 01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:23,520 sightings are real and and you can go 1575 01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:26,100 see them yourselves what do we do with 1576 01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:29,510 that data and why isn't the government 1577 01:19:34,250 --> 01:19:31,860 responding to that why is it mass media 1578 01:19:36,980 --> 01:19:34,260 responding to these extraordinary things 1579 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:36,990 that seem to be happening every day well 1580 01:19:40,420 --> 01:19:38,850 I think that goes back to the point that 1581 01:19:43,820 --> 01:19:40,430 I made about the Ministry of Defence 1582 01:19:46,010 --> 01:19:43,830 having imagery analysis resources and 1583 01:19:48,980 --> 01:19:46,020 capabilities because in a sense the 1584 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:48,990 media have been so busy focusing on on 1585 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:53,010 just looking at these three videos of 1586 01:19:58,340 --> 01:19:55,650 the Jets chasing the UFOs they haven't 1587 01:20:02,810 --> 01:19:58,350 asked the logical next step question 1588 01:20:05,690 --> 01:20:02,820 well okay what happened when the DIA and 1589 01:20:08,930 --> 01:20:05,700 and others got their hands on this and 1590 01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:08,940 did the analysis what did they conclude 1591 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:11,280 where is the final report now the 1592 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:12,930 answers to those questions 1593 01:20:19,460 --> 01:20:16,650 if indeed they ever do get revealed will 1594 01:20:21,290 --> 01:20:19,470 only come out when when we get the 1595 01:20:22,910 --> 01:20:21,300 response to some of the Freedom of 1596 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:22,920 Information Act requests that are 1597 01:20:27,470 --> 01:20:25,290 currently in the system for the the 1598 01:20:29,780 --> 01:20:27,480 paperwork relating to this Pentagon 1599 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:29,790 programming and the sort of what they 1600 01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:32,010 did next you know it's no good having 1601 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:34,110 these videos in one sense the real 1602 01:20:38,630 --> 01:20:35,970 question is well what did you do with 1603 01:20:40,910 --> 01:20:38,640 them and and where where is the analysis 1604 01:20:43,340 --> 01:20:40,920 and what's what's the results and can we 1605 01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:43,350 see them peer review them yeah I have 1606 01:20:48,410 --> 01:20:45,710 I've been told by different 1607 01:20:50,570 --> 01:20:48,420 quote-unquote insiders out there that 1608 01:20:52,730 --> 01:20:50,580 those reports were written and that they 1609 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:52,740 have seen them and some some are in 1610 01:20:57,170 --> 01:20:54,570 possession of these and I have said to 1611 01:21:01,010 --> 01:20:57,180 everybody go public with it show it to 1612 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:01,020 me you know to continue the rabbit-hole 1613 01:21:06,410 --> 01:21:03,810 dissent right where we were in this 1614 01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:06,420 constant circle it's a circle argument 1615 01:21:11,790 --> 01:21:08,830 and until we 1616 01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:11,800 all of it with something we can stop you 1617 01:21:16,410 --> 01:21:14,590 know chasing our tails and and I hear 1618 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:16,420 this all the time but Nicki bring up one 1619 01:21:18,990 --> 01:21:17,770 of the most important points if those 1620 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:19,000 videos are what they are 1621 01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:20,770 where's the analysis where are the 1622 01:21:26,850 --> 01:21:24,400 reports what did the DoD actually think 1623 01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:26,860 was in these videos you know because 1624 01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:31,120 that that had to have happened yes it if 1625 01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:33,910 it did where are they and I don't know I 1626 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:35,500 don't know if that's where you need a 1627 01:21:38,910 --> 01:21:37,330 whistle blower that's where you need 1628 01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:38,920 somebody to step forward I don't think 1629 01:21:44,220 --> 01:21:40,270 you're gonna get if they were written 1630 01:21:45,930 --> 01:21:44,230 and that the DoD did care then they're 1631 01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:45,940 not gonna release those reports I just 1632 01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:48,160 don't think they would they they may not 1633 01:21:53,190 --> 01:21:50,380 some of the work if it was done by 1634 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:53,200 defense contractors may be outside the 1635 01:21:58,500 --> 01:21:55,210 scope of the Freedom of Information Act 1636 01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:58,510 and don't forget that the answer to some 1637 01:22:03,390 --> 01:22:00,880 of this in terms of analysis might just 1638 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:03,400 be we don't know I mean there could be 1639 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:06,610 an analysis which simply says and I've 1640 01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:08,050 seen similar things in the Ministry of 1641 01:22:12,450 --> 01:22:10,510 Defence in the UK might simply say yes 1642 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:12,460 these things are faster than us more 1643 01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:14,170 maneuverable but we don't know what they 1644 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:15,760 are where they're coming from what they 1645 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:16,090 want 1646 01:22:21,090 --> 01:22:18,850 etc that might be all that the analysis 1647 01:22:23,490 --> 01:22:21,100 said and of course we come full circle 1648 01:22:25,650 --> 01:22:23,500 with where we started in in this 1649 01:22:27,870 --> 01:22:25,660 discussion earlier so some of the 1650 01:22:30,690 --> 01:22:27,880 analysis whether they said this in 1651 01:22:34,250 --> 01:22:30,700 writing or I doubt but somebody probably 1652 01:22:38,430 --> 01:22:34,260 looked at it and said you know oh demons 1653 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:38,440 right right now and I want to thank you 1654 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:40,690 for coming on tonight we're gonna run 1655 01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:42,130 out of time here so I want to get that 1656 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:44,110 in in case we do run out of time and 1657 01:22:53,010 --> 01:22:47,410 we'll see on Thursday but the the naming 1658 01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:53,020 of programs with any state is a very 1659 01:22:58,410 --> 01:22:56,110 deliberate thing the the naming of 1660 01:23:00,780 --> 01:22:58,420 programs there isn't a mistake and 1661 01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:00,790 acronyms are important it's just the way 1662 01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:04,000 that the military is and here you 1663 01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:06,310 brought this up earlier we have this 1664 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:10,140 question now whether it's aerospace or 1665 01:23:15,690 --> 01:23:12,970 aviation when it comes to a tip and 1666 01:23:18,570 --> 01:23:15,700 there's in this Pentagon program if it's 1667 01:23:20,010 --> 01:23:18,580 aerospace then it could be rockets and 1668 01:23:22,010 --> 01:23:20,020 it could be something that's you know 1669 01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:22,020 dealing with space 1670 01:23:27,740 --> 01:23:25,920 but if it's aviation clearly that is a 1671 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:27,750 different naming of a program with a 1672 01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:30,570 different intention to it which was 1673 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:34,710 suggest terrestrial or you know Russian 1674 01:23:41,540 --> 01:23:38,130 aircraft or Chinese aircraft and your 1675 01:23:45,140 --> 01:23:41,550 experience with the mo D is is that is 1676 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:45,150 that a correct analysis well I think one 1677 01:23:49,250 --> 01:23:47,010 of my sound bites on all this when the 1678 01:23:52,010 --> 01:23:49,260 story first came out was there's a tea 1679 01:23:54,410 --> 01:23:52,020 and a tip for a reason and the tea of 1680 01:23:57,020 --> 01:23:54,420 course is threat but if you take the new 1681 01:24:00,410 --> 01:23:57,030 name advanced aerospace weapon system 1682 01:24:02,540 --> 01:24:00,420 applications right again applications 1683 01:24:04,220 --> 01:24:02,550 it's all about what practical you know 1684 01:24:06,110 --> 01:24:04,230 what are the threats and what are the 1685 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:06,120 opportunities that's how government 1686 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:08,730 looks at any situation threats and 1687 01:24:13,670 --> 01:24:11,970 opportunities project condign we only 1688 01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:13,680 have time to talk about this now but we 1689 01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:15,270 can get into it another time project 1690 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:17,490 condign talked about the potential 1691 01:24:23,230 --> 01:24:21,210 weaponization of this phenomenon and the 1692 01:24:26,750 --> 01:24:23,240 one of the other quotes was novel 1693 01:24:28,940 --> 01:24:26,760 military applications but I don't doubt 1694 01:24:31,690 --> 01:24:28,950 that these people probably looked at 1695 01:24:35,150 --> 01:24:31,700 next generation Russian and Chinese 1696 01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:35,160 aircraft missiles drones and satellites 1697 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:39,360 too and in fact embedding a UFO research 1698 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:41,850 program in amongst that is a very good 1699 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:45,450 place to put put your program and so if 1700 01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:48,810 it let's say that the program is like I 1701 01:24:55,450 --> 01:24:52,320 said if it's aviation do you think it's 1702 01:24:59,570 --> 01:24:55,460 still possible there are the AH SAP 1703 01:25:02,300 --> 01:24:59,580 acronym when I look at that and and my 1704 01:25:05,450 --> 01:25:02,310 civilian eyes are reading it it just 1705 01:25:08,300 --> 01:25:05,460 sounds like a weapons program that could 1706 01:25:11,780 --> 01:25:08,310 be satellite based or otherwise but it's 1707 01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:11,790 also application and I don't see et 1708 01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:13,920 there you know I don't it doesn't feel 1709 01:25:18,740 --> 01:25:17,490 et to me no but then maybe that's the 1710 01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:18,750 point if you were trying to hide a 1711 01:25:24,140 --> 01:25:22,080 program looking at that but then you 1712 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:24,150 come back to the point that government 1713 01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:26,370 and the military we changed these sorts 1714 01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:28,110 of titles all the time my goodness 1715 01:25:31,940 --> 01:25:30,510 sometimes in my mo D career I was 1716 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:31,950 working for a division and the division 1717 01:25:37,150 --> 01:25:34,730 would change its title 1718 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:37,160 from you know one week to the next and 1719 01:25:42,190 --> 01:25:39,770 so well yeah you get you get these 1720 01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:42,200 bureaucratic reorganizations all the 1721 01:25:46,630 --> 01:25:44,450 time and then sometimes you manipulate 1722 01:25:51,220 --> 01:25:46,640 the wording to actually hide something 1723 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:51,230 who is Nick Pope now over at the mo Diaz 1724 01:25:57,580 --> 01:25:55,250 that program still running no I don't 1725 01:26:00,250 --> 01:25:57,590 believe it is and if the Ministry of 1726 01:26:03,010 --> 01:26:00,260 Defense are still looking at this they 1727 01:26:05,860 --> 01:26:03,020 are probably looking at it through 1728 01:26:08,650 --> 01:26:05,870 defense contractors and in the context 1729 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:08,660 of a wider program looking at more more 1730 01:26:14,860 --> 01:26:11,810 conventional next generation aerospace 1731 01:26:17,530 --> 01:26:14,870 and aviation threats but you know if a 1732 01:26:19,170 --> 01:26:17,540 pilot if an Air Force pilot sees a UFO 1733 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:19,180 and if it gets tracked on radar 1734 01:26:23,890 --> 01:26:21,290 somebody's going to look at that it just 1735 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:23,900 might not happen in in a formally 1736 01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:27,050 constituted UFO program have you been 1737 01:26:32,380 --> 01:26:29,450 contacted by the mo D since you left 1738 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:32,390 about information or maybe pulling you 1739 01:26:38,890 --> 01:26:36,050 back in to look at some data no I've 1740 01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:38,900 been involved in the release program of 1741 01:26:43,710 --> 01:26:41,450 these files and I do occasionally have I 1742 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:43,720 suppose what you call some Bank channel 1743 01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:47,090 contacts with the mo D over a couple of 1744 01:26:51,940 --> 01:26:49,520 issues but there's honestly no truth to 1745 01:26:53,710 --> 01:26:51,950 the Nick Pope still secretly working for 1746 01:26:58,570 --> 01:26:53,720 the government meme that's doing the 1747 01:27:01,690 --> 01:26:58,580 rounds yeah you'll never get away from 1748 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:01,700 that that's gonna follow you forever but 1749 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:04,970 I guess what I'm asking though is if a 1750 01:27:09,970 --> 01:27:07,850 situation would arise do you think that 1751 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:09,980 they would reach out to you for for 1752 01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:13,610 information yes myself and a handful of 1753 01:27:19,210 --> 01:27:16,400 others who've been directly involved in 1754 01:27:22,150 --> 01:27:19,220 this yes it's such a deep specialist 1755 01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:22,160 subject that maybe you never really 1756 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:26,450 leave in entirety yeah so what you're 1757 01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:28,610 saying is you have an mo d burner phone 1758 01:27:33,970 --> 01:27:32,390 well I'm gonna I'm gonna maybe I put it 1759 01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:33,980 like this I'm on a leash it's a very 1760 01:27:39,220 --> 01:27:36,320 long one but it's still leash Nick I 1761 01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:39,230 want to thank you so much and I'll see 1762 01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:41,360 you on Thursday night we'll open up the 1763 01:27:45,670 --> 01:27:43,040 phone lines and we'll hang out we'll 1764 01:27:46,370 --> 01:27:45,680 have some fun and and we'll field some 1765 01:27:47,919 --> 01:27:46,380 phone calls 1766 01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:47,929 for an hour thank you so much and 1767 01:27:52,669 --> 01:27:50,820 everybody Nick will be at contact in the 1768 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:52,679 desert June 1st through the 4th along 1769 01:27:56,810 --> 01:27:55,530 with yours truly and everybody else what 1770 01:27:59,570 --> 01:27:56,820 are you gonna be talking about out there 1771 01:28:02,120 --> 01:27:59,580 Nick funnily enough my Saturday lecture 1772 01:28:03,290 --> 01:28:02,130 is called alien technology and my Sunday 1773 01:28:06,770 --> 01:28:03,300 workshop is called 1774 01:28:07,689 --> 01:28:06,780 alien religion from an atheist you gotta 1775 01:28:10,939 --> 01:28:07,699 love that 1776 01:28:12,979 --> 01:28:10,949 Nick thank you so much my friend thank 1777 01:28:14,899 --> 01:28:12,989 you we'll see you Thursday Nick Pope 1778 01:28:16,910 --> 01:28:14,909 everybody again he will be out of 1779 01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:16,920 contact in the desert with us and the 1780 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:20,159 rest of you and Thursday night he'll be 1781 01:28:24,500 --> 01:28:22,770 back here taking your phone calls thank 1782 01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:24,510 you so much Nick and his new website 1783 01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:27,600 Nick Pope dotnet all of his books are 1784 01:28:32,270 --> 01:28:30,239 there appearances everything is there 1785 01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:32,280 you can go check out Nick Pope neck and 1786 01:28:36,229 --> 01:28:34,560 the links are add Jimi Church radio calm 1787 01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:36,239 all right I'm gonna open up the phone 1788 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:38,159 lines and hang out with all of you I'll 1789 01:28:49,969 --> 01:28:40,210 be right back stay with me 1790 01:28:57,209 --> 01:28:53,179 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1791 01:28:59,489 --> 01:28:57,219 you're listening to fade to black always 1792 01:29:02,339 --> 01:28:59,499 on the edge of the hottest alternative 1793 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:02,349 talk chilly church with fade to black 1794 01:29:25,319 --> 01:29:21,610 stay GRA radio.com hurricanes 1795 01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:25,329 earthquakes wildfires this year we've 1796 01:29:29,459 --> 01:29:27,070 experienced more than our fair share 1797 01:29:32,339 --> 01:29:29,469 this is Jimmy Church of fade to black 1798 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:32,349 and last month I decided to make sure my 1799 01:29:36,689 --> 01:29:34,570 family does not have to 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01:33:29,420 --> 01:33:27,720 okay new Pharma GNU Pharma and the 1869 01:33:31,130 --> 01:33:29,430 banners are over at a Jimmy Church radio 1870 01:33:33,980 --> 01:33:31,140 calm just click and then go and read 1871 01:33:37,190 --> 01:33:33,990 about all the science behind new Pharma 1872 01:33:39,740 --> 01:33:37,200 okay I'm opening up the phone lines a 1873 01:33:43,340 --> 01:33:39,750 great conversation with Nick Pope as 1874 01:33:46,580 --> 01:33:43,350 always three two three eight two five 1875 01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:46,590 five zero four five let me open up the 1876 01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:50,880 phones over yeah there we go three two 1877 01:33:57,590 --> 01:33:53,730 three eight to five five zero four or 1878 01:34:01,340 --> 01:33:57,600 five or three two three two seven five 1879 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:01,350 nine six nine five three two three eight 1880 01:34:05,090 --> 01:34:03,330 two five five zero four five or three 1881 01:34:06,350 --> 01:34:05,100 two three two seven five nine six nine 1882 01:34:07,940 --> 01:34:06,360 five 1883 01:34:11,660 --> 01:34:07,950 what did you think about that 1884 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:11,670 conversation see this is the thing and 1885 01:34:16,030 --> 01:34:13,770 I'm gonna get to some other stuff here 1886 01:34:21,910 --> 01:34:16,040 too in a second 1887 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:21,920 religion yeah this is a very interesting 1888 01:34:31,130 --> 01:34:26,370 take on this one that is discussed 1889 01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:31,140 sometimes on this show and I relate so 1890 01:34:37,010 --> 01:34:34,080 much of it to ancient history in loss 1891 01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:37,020 history and and religions and the 1892 01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:39,360 mystery schools and today 1893 01:34:46,110 --> 01:34:42,520 I find all of that very very interesting 1894 01:34:48,270 --> 01:34:46,120 but the religious aspect which has hit 1895 01:34:53,210 --> 01:34:48,280 the media in the last couple of days 1896 01:34:59,880 --> 01:34:57,420 this I mean there are those that appear 1897 01:35:04,260 --> 01:34:59,890 to be inside of the military-industrial 1898 01:35:07,260 --> 01:35:04,270 complex that are saying just that that 1899 01:35:10,590 --> 01:35:07,270 this demonic is the word that they were 1900 01:35:12,450 --> 01:35:10,600 using and I have to back up and say to 1901 01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:12,460 myself look are they are they sitting on 1902 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:14,490 information that we don't know 1903 01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:17,290 specifically as to what this is and when 1904 01:35:22,470 --> 01:35:19,840 they say demonic what are they referring 1905 01:35:27,770 --> 01:35:22,480 to here is the Satan as this are these 1906 01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:27,780 demons as portrayed in different 1907 01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:30,670 religions around the world is it that or 1908 01:35:36,750 --> 01:35:33,730 is it just that it's possible that they 1909 01:35:41,460 --> 01:35:36,760 could have bad intentions and have 1910 01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:41,470 nothing to do with religion I find that 1911 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:44,770 as interesting as it gets or is it just 1912 01:35:57,630 --> 01:35:54,840 faith inside of the military industrial 1913 01:35:59,070 --> 01:35:57,640 complex it's pretty interesting I'm 1914 01:36:00,420 --> 01:35:59,080 gonna take that a bit further let's go 1915 01:36:03,690 --> 01:36:00,430 to the phones hi you're live on fade to 1916 01:36:07,170 --> 01:36:03,700 black who's calling yep from Sacramento 1917 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:07,180 hi Deb how are you good Jimmy I think 1918 01:36:09,210 --> 01:36:08,290 you just nailed it on your third 1919 01:36:11,690 --> 01:36:09,220 alternative 1920 01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:11,700 what's that fundamental within the 1921 01:36:18,060 --> 01:36:16,630 military foundation of maybe what they 1922 01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:18,070 believe and what they were raised to 1923 01:36:24,930 --> 01:36:21,490 with very traditional stoic men who have 1924 01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:24,940 religious beliefs and they equate demons 1925 01:36:29,490 --> 01:36:27,730 back to the Bible and they don't know 1926 01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:29,500 the true source of what these beings are 1927 01:36:35,070 --> 01:36:33,070 either and so I don't know if the word 1928 01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:35,080 is paranoia I think I think that's 1929 01:36:39,300 --> 01:36:37,450 possible but if they go back to the 1930 01:36:40,860 --> 01:36:39,310 Bible the Bible talks about angels and 1931 01:36:43,050 --> 01:36:40,870 demons and if they don't know what these 1932 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:43,060 entities are just like a lot of my 1933 01:36:47,610 --> 01:36:44,770 Christian friends they're gonna say well 1934 01:36:49,110 --> 01:36:47,620 you worship demons oh no I don't number 1935 01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:49,120 one you don't even know what I believe 1936 01:36:51,690 --> 01:36:50,320 it and then they accuse you of 1937 01:36:53,670 --> 01:36:51,700 worshipping demons because you think 1938 01:36:56,340 --> 01:36:53,680 that God created other beings in the 1939 01:37:00,240 --> 01:36:56,350 universe besides us what 1940 01:37:03,090 --> 01:37:00,250 yes yes and so if we look at it that way 1941 01:37:06,450 --> 01:37:03,100 and I'm talking about the you know the 1942 01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:06,460 hard core religious fundamentalists of 1943 01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:07,870 any background inside of the 1944 01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:10,480 military-industrial complex I always 1945 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:13,990 imagined it this way okay so they've got 1946 01:37:20,610 --> 01:37:17,410 a big boardroom big meeting room inside 1947 01:37:23,820 --> 01:37:20,620 of the Pentagon and they're gonna have a 1948 01:37:26,940 --> 01:37:23,830 breakfast prayer meeting right and so 1949 01:37:29,790 --> 01:37:26,950 they get together the breakfast is laid 1950 01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:29,800 out and they bring in the head of 1951 01:37:35,610 --> 01:37:32,050 Raytheon to speak to everybody that 1952 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:35,620 morning and he says okay got this great 1953 01:37:41,850 --> 01:37:38,770 new missile it flies twice as far twice 1954 01:37:44,460 --> 01:37:41,860 as fast half of the fuel and it's got 1955 01:37:46,380 --> 01:37:44,470 twice the amount of warhead and we're 1956 01:37:48,150 --> 01:37:46,390 gonna be able to blow up entire cities 1957 01:37:50,730 --> 01:37:48,160 and we're gonna sell these to you cheap 1958 01:37:51,630 --> 01:37:50,740 and you know that and they'll go oh 1959 01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:51,640 great 1960 01:37:55,950 --> 01:37:53,920 that is just amazing thank you so much 1961 01:38:01,320 --> 01:37:55,960 for that we'll buy a couple of hundred 1962 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:01,330 of those and now let's pray right right 1963 01:38:08,690 --> 01:38:05,530 and it's a it it it just doesn't go 1964 01:38:12,810 --> 01:38:08,700 together with me but I know that it 1965 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:12,820 exists right there's there's no way to 1966 01:38:20,130 --> 01:38:16,330 say that it doesn't because it does now 1967 01:38:22,620 --> 01:38:20,140 if that is the case and they are afraid 1968 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:22,630 of these craft that they can't identify 1969 01:38:28,350 --> 01:38:25,930 and they want to say that they are 1970 01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:28,360 demonic and it's coming from that 1971 01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:32,290 mindset okay all right let it fly I'm 1972 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:33,280 okay with that 1973 01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:36,370 everybody's got opinions but the the 1974 01:38:41,850 --> 01:38:38,110 other side of it and the more 1975 01:38:45,110 --> 01:38:41,860 frightening side of it is what is it 1976 01:38:48,450 --> 01:38:45,120 that they know do they know something 1977 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:48,460 specific and Tom DeLonge certainly 1978 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:52,330 implied last year on fade to black that 1979 01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:54,970 that was the case and to be careful 1980 01:39:00,180 --> 01:38:57,610 about who you're out there with the ce-5 1981 01:39:05,150 --> 01:39:00,190 and waving hi to when you see these 1982 01:39:08,130 --> 01:39:05,160 crafts fly by because it may have a 1983 01:39:08,830 --> 01:39:08,140 religious aspect to it that you're not 1984 01:39:11,770 --> 01:39:08,840 going 1985 01:39:14,740 --> 01:39:11,780 wanna mess with so what what what are we 1986 01:39:16,209 --> 01:39:14,750 dealing with here Deb well he called 1987 01:39:17,950 --> 01:39:16,219 sometime too long cause when the bugs 1988 01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:17,960 and he thinks they're really bad and 1989 01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,210 they're here to harm us but I you know 1990 01:39:24,370 --> 01:39:22,239 that's because of what he's been told 1991 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:24,380 how do we know you know just because 1992 01:39:28,330 --> 01:39:26,090 someone tells you something just like I 1993 01:39:30,189 --> 01:39:28,340 was raised my whole life believing the 1994 01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:30,199 Bible because and I believe in 1995 01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:31,760 Christianity and everything they taught 1996 01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:34,610 me born in the blood Baptist and it's 1997 01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:35,810 like just because that's what you've 1998 01:39:40,060 --> 01:39:37,489 been told this I mean that's really how 1999 01:39:41,950 --> 01:39:40,070 it is you got at some point willing to 2000 01:39:45,010 --> 01:39:41,960 separate yourself open your mind and 2001 01:39:47,859 --> 01:39:45,020 look for other things because we've been 2002 01:39:49,330 --> 01:39:47,869 brainwashed and maybe he has been too 2003 01:39:51,490 --> 01:39:49,340 I don't know but I don't necessarily 2004 01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:51,500 believe just because he believes a 2005 01:40:00,459 --> 01:39:54,460 certain thing about them you know that 2006 01:40:03,370 --> 01:40:00,469 but that's the way it is the the aspect 2007 01:40:05,950 --> 01:40:03,380 that you suggested which I agree with by 2008 01:40:07,950 --> 01:40:05,960 the way what if we go back you know 2009 01:40:10,689 --> 01:40:07,960 three thousand years ago back before 2010 01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:10,699 Christ let's go back let's go back at 2011 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:12,110 three thousand years four thousand years 2012 01:40:16,780 --> 01:40:15,170 and something strange is in the sky and 2013 01:40:20,410 --> 01:40:16,790 they come down and make contact share 2014 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:20,420 technology move rocks whatever teaches 2015 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:25,810 how to make wheels whatever it is right 2016 01:40:34,030 --> 01:40:32,690 built pyramids domesticate wheat you 2017 01:40:36,790 --> 01:40:34,040 know whatever it is right give us some 2018 01:40:40,740 --> 01:40:36,800 really cool technology that we can 2019 01:40:46,149 --> 01:40:40,750 handle well if you are the leader of 2020 01:40:48,669 --> 01:40:46,159 said community you can't turn around and 2021 01:40:50,379 --> 01:40:48,679 tell this uneducated 2022 01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:50,389 there's no colleges right there's 2023 01:40:56,740 --> 01:40:52,130 something like that going on but you 2024 01:40:59,589 --> 01:40:56,750 can't teach or suggest to them that they 2025 01:41:02,979 --> 01:40:59,599 are from another planet that they are 2026 01:41:03,729 --> 01:41:02,989 the they are from whatever right Zeta 2027 01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:03,739 Reticuli 2028 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:08,239 and they're a li he can't explain it to 2029 01:41:14,649 --> 01:41:09,650 him like that the only thing that they 2030 01:41:18,850 --> 01:41:14,659 would understand is that was God and God 2031 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:18,860 gave us wheat today well okay 2032 01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:20,730 they're gonna understand that 2033 01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:25,530 and that Dogma gets handed down for 2034 01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:28,290 centuries and millennia and turns into 2035 01:41:33,650 --> 01:41:31,440 what it is today that's a pretty simple 2036 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:33,660 explanation and one that makes a lot of 2037 01:41:43,460 --> 01:41:40,530 sense well I agree with you yeah and you 2038 01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:43,470 know when it comes to the Bible you know 2039 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:45,450 since we're talking religion you know I 2040 01:41:50,660 --> 01:41:47,690 believe there are aspects of the Bible 2041 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:50,670 God who had a not too long ago and 2042 01:41:56,330 --> 01:41:54,690 called them all again so there what was 2043 01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:56,340 he calling him what were there like 2044 01:42:02,110 --> 01:41:59,520 metaphors and the Bible is interpretive 2045 01:42:05,420 --> 01:42:02,120 and the problem is a lot of information 2046 01:42:07,130 --> 01:42:05,430 truth I believe has been left out of the 2047 01:42:09,740 --> 01:42:07,140 Bible and left out of the other 2048 01:42:12,440 --> 01:42:09,750 religious texts all around the world so 2049 01:42:13,820 --> 01:42:12,450 we don't have the full we have puzzle 2050 01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:13,830 pieces but we don't have the full 2051 01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:15,600 picture and that's the problem and they 2052 01:42:20,510 --> 01:42:17,040 won't give us the full picture we're 2053 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:20,520 having to continue to dig and search for 2054 01:42:24,710 --> 01:42:22,770 the answers which is you know a great 2055 01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:24,720 that's why this is such a great platform 2056 01:42:30,860 --> 01:42:29,520 to give our ideas and you know listen to 2057 01:42:35,690 --> 01:42:30,870 different things you know what's 2058 01:42:37,460 --> 01:42:35,700 interesting about that is over the past 2059 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:37,470 couple of thousand years certainly since 2060 01:42:44,750 --> 01:42:42,570 the council back at 330 ad if we look at 2061 01:42:47,470 --> 01:42:44,760 that and you know when they assemble the 2062 01:42:49,820 --> 01:42:47,480 Bible you know the first versions of it 2063 01:42:55,610 --> 01:42:49,830 yeah Council of Nicaea since that 2064 01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:55,620 council the readers of different 2065 01:43:02,360 --> 01:42:58,800 versions of the Bible are okay with 2066 01:43:03,890 --> 01:43:02,370 doing that with saying that well there's 2067 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:03,900 stuff that we just don't know you know 2068 01:43:09,140 --> 01:43:06,930 we have to trust you know with yes but 2069 01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:09,150 it's how you interpret you know the 2070 01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:12,450 meaning is this they are okay with that 2071 01:43:17,900 --> 01:43:14,880 because it has been that way for so long 2072 01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:17,910 that that is just the accepted version 2073 01:43:22,340 --> 01:43:19,290 of the story 2074 01:43:26,450 --> 01:43:22,350 you know what you have to put faith in 2075 01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:26,460 you have to you have to trust yeah there 2076 01:43:28,770 --> 01:43:28,080 are certain things that are being held 2077 01:43:30,510 --> 01:43:28,780 back 2078 01:43:32,279 --> 01:43:30,520 there were okay with the Vatican having 2079 01:43:35,339 --> 01:43:32,289 secrets they're okay with the church 2080 01:43:38,490 --> 01:43:35,349 having secrets they're okay with these 2081 01:43:41,879 --> 01:43:38,500 secrets and and that you know we can't 2082 01:43:44,189 --> 01:43:41,889 handle it you know and when we do when 2083 01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:44,199 we're at a certain level that knowledge 2084 01:43:50,430 --> 01:43:46,960 will be exposed to us but right now you 2085 01:43:54,839 --> 01:43:50,440 know we're - huh it's it's it's it's 2086 01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:54,849 really funny how that has that everybody 2087 01:43:59,459 --> 01:43:57,730 is okay with it because that is what 2088 01:44:02,040 --> 01:43:59,469 they have been told for so long 2089 01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:02,050 and it could be just as simple as what 2090 01:44:07,229 --> 01:44:05,050 you're saying well the other thing 2091 01:44:08,700 --> 01:44:07,239 that's pure ei ting to me is when I and 2092 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:08,710 I try very hard not to get into 2093 01:44:13,049 --> 01:44:10,690 arguments and debates with my Christian 2094 01:44:15,029 --> 01:44:13,059 friends but they you know say well God's 2095 01:44:16,410 --> 01:44:15,039 not a God of confusion and God's very 2096 01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:16,420 clear about you know what you should 2097 01:44:20,399 --> 01:44:18,639 believe in God's a God of love and in 2098 01:44:24,060 --> 01:44:20,409 Michael's God's a God of love I believe 2099 01:44:26,609 --> 01:44:24,070 he is and it's men that have twisted the 2100 01:44:28,589 --> 01:44:26,619 truth and corrupted the scriptures and 2101 01:44:31,649 --> 01:44:28,599 and and not included everything and it's 2102 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:31,659 men who put us in war so what do you 2103 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:33,250 what do you say when you think you know 2104 01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:36,130 how are you about you know all these 2105 01:44:40,859 --> 01:44:38,110 wars for all these centuries you know 2106 01:44:43,140 --> 01:44:40,869 God is allowing these wars to happen so 2107 01:44:44,939 --> 01:44:43,150 is he a God of love well the Bible then 2108 01:44:46,529 --> 01:44:44,949 immediately they always forbade him well 2109 01:44:47,819 --> 01:44:46,539 the Bible says there'll be wars and 2110 01:44:49,890 --> 01:44:47,829 rumors of wars and there's always been 2111 01:44:51,419 --> 01:44:49,900 Wars all through the Bible I said just 2112 01:44:54,029 --> 01:44:51,429 because there's been Wars doesn't mean 2113 01:44:55,709 --> 01:44:54,039 there should be wars yeah yeah you're 2114 01:45:00,299 --> 01:44:55,719 right about that I love there so they're 2115 01:45:02,430 --> 01:45:00,309 okay with massive killing oh there's two 2116 01:45:07,830 --> 01:45:02,440 versions of God in the Bible and one of 2117 01:45:09,779 --> 01:45:07,840 them was was a was a was a badass no 2118 01:45:12,359 --> 01:45:09,789 question about it Deb thank you so much 2119 01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:12,369 for the phone call and we'll see it 2120 01:45:16,229 --> 01:45:13,570 tomorrow night on the show great 2121 01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:16,239 conversation is all thank you Thank You 2122 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:19,090 Deb great great phone call right there 2123 01:45:37,090 --> 01:45:29,220 what are you doing what time is it there 2124 01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:42,820 [Music] 2125 01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:47,990 it's 1:45 in the afternoon yep 2126 01:45:53,780 --> 01:45:51,330 oh man I like your side of the world 2127 01:45:57,860 --> 01:45:53,790 not only that see your time traveler see 2128 01:46:01,550 --> 01:45:57,870 actually it's tomorrow there so what's 2129 01:46:04,460 --> 01:46:01,560 on your mind tonight mirela I I had to 2130 01:46:08,210 --> 01:46:04,470 call because this subject okay close to 2131 01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:08,220 my heart I've calmed down a lot to 2132 01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:12,090 standby which is which is good because 2133 01:46:16,430 --> 01:46:15,090 all that is all the things that are 2134 01:46:19,190 --> 01:46:16,440 falling into place 2135 01:46:21,650 --> 01:46:19,200 and I think I would like sense of 2136 01:46:25,130 --> 01:46:21,660 everything and I feel very free now 2137 01:46:28,730 --> 01:46:25,140 to be able to talk my true thing what I 2138 01:46:32,810 --> 01:46:28,740 think learning the last 20 years or all 2139 01:46:35,210 --> 01:46:32,820 my life but I've got one daughter who 26 2140 01:46:38,410 --> 01:46:35,220 having a baby here named Sydney that 2141 01:46:42,140 --> 01:46:38,420 she's uh just converted to Islam and 2142 01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:42,150 she's been reading the Quran for quite a 2143 01:46:47,300 --> 01:46:43,530 few years now 2144 01:46:55,390 --> 01:46:47,310 I was brought up a Catholic yeah like in 2145 01:46:58,450 --> 01:46:55,400 Catholic school my other daughter in LA 2146 01:47:05,330 --> 01:46:58,460 with my three grandchildren I go to a 2147 01:47:08,420 --> 01:47:05,340 fantastic church in LA called c3 anyway 2148 01:47:12,110 --> 01:47:08,430 she escapes me every Monday morning and 2149 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:12,120 I listen to it the church church you 2150 01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:13,410 know they're a church kids them 2151 01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:15,600 everyone's at church and I listen to 2152 01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:18,410 this to the service and it's beautiful 2153 01:47:28,460 --> 01:47:24,770 but what I want to say is that I've I've 2154 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:28,470 read a lot like I'm 56 2155 01:47:33,940 --> 01:47:30,810 now but my whole life has been involved 2156 01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:33,950 with like the healing learning ecology 2157 01:47:39,770 --> 01:47:37,170 natural therapies start because I was at 2158 01:47:44,660 --> 01:47:39,780 Catholic schools a little girl I also 2159 01:47:47,450 --> 01:47:44,670 have a real deep affinity with Mary and 2160 01:47:50,180 --> 01:47:47,460 Mary Magdalene and the stories of 2161 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:50,190 survival after the girls were born I 2162 01:47:55,310 --> 01:47:53,130 went into theology so I did to use of 2163 01:47:57,770 --> 01:47:55,320 theology so I got really engines 2164 01:48:01,790 --> 01:47:57,780 the Bible now what I want to say yeah is 2165 01:48:03,860 --> 01:48:01,800 that since December I they must need to 2166 01:48:06,940 --> 01:48:03,870 say to black engineer and you've had 2167 01:48:12,410 --> 01:48:06,950 everybody that I've been following since 2168 01:48:15,410 --> 01:48:12,420 before 2010 so the thing is is that 2169 01:48:18,370 --> 01:48:15,420 everything they talk about the Bible is 2170 01:48:21,380 --> 01:48:18,380 what I was learning in theology however 2171 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:21,390 what what I agree with that lady that 2172 01:48:27,470 --> 01:48:24,930 just right now is that probably when all 2173 01:48:29,390 --> 01:48:27,480 those guys in there so the Pentagon all 2174 01:48:32,420 --> 01:48:29,400 died out like that taught this whole 2175 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:32,430 generation died off and we our kids are 2176 01:48:37,370 --> 01:48:34,770 then in the Pentagon and so forth these 2177 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:37,380 subjects are going to be real and 2178 01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:39,690 they're going to be open to you know 2179 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:41,970 it's going to be a whole different world 2180 01:48:47,450 --> 01:48:45,090 and I'm excited about that I think I've 2181 01:48:51,140 --> 01:48:47,460 called you a couple of times maybe three 2182 01:48:55,730 --> 01:48:51,150 and I've been overexcited and that's 2183 01:48:59,420 --> 01:48:55,740 that's what that's not that's not what's 2184 01:49:02,900 --> 01:48:59,430 only great about where we are today as a 2185 01:49:05,930 --> 01:49:02,910 community but certainly fade to black or 2186 01:49:08,810 --> 01:49:05,940 on stellar the community being able to 2187 01:49:11,810 --> 01:49:08,820 reach out you can call in and talk to me 2188 01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:11,820 you can make friends you've made friends 2189 01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:17,970 right the tube and and it's made my 2190 01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:23,610 world real where I lived in my dreams I 2191 01:49:27,380 --> 01:49:25,650 lived in my channeling whatever I was 2192 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:27,390 doing here in time I lived in my 2193 01:49:33,860 --> 01:49:30,810 paintings I lived in my work 30 years a 2194 01:49:36,650 --> 01:49:33,870 nation artists at Walt Disney for 12 2195 01:49:39,770 --> 01:49:36,660 years but I know I know how easy it is 2196 01:49:41,230 --> 01:49:39,780 to make film look really authentic and 2197 01:49:43,790 --> 01:49:41,240 real sound-wise 2198 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:43,800 visualize everything well the boys we're 2199 01:49:50,420 --> 01:49:47,850 all doing it 25 years ago and I was 2200 01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:50,430 working with them doing the matrix hands 2201 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:52,410 you mean the boys we're doing all sorts 2202 01:49:57,530 --> 01:49:55,650 of things you can't believe it I'd be 2203 01:50:00,020 --> 01:49:57,540 there you know at lunch break and that 2204 01:50:03,020 --> 01:50:00,030 has no like metal music playing and 2205 01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:03,030 they're making all sorts of little films 2206 01:50:09,229 --> 01:50:08,370 or themselves I'm doing that real and I 2207 01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:09,239 will 2208 01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:11,010 and now we're putting them together from 2209 01:50:19,850 --> 01:50:15,570 this unit that it was us I talk all the 2210 01:50:23,689 --> 01:50:19,860 time it was conspiracy theories talk all 2211 01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:23,699 the time and the boys always anger some 2212 01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:26,850 beautiful women animators that I want to 2213 01:50:38,300 --> 01:50:33,449 write and what is it by but what does 2214 01:50:40,130 --> 01:50:38,310 that tell you you all time and what does 2215 01:50:44,030 --> 01:50:40,140 that tell you about our future I mean 2216 01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:44,040 we're in good hands on absolutely 2217 01:50:51,229 --> 01:50:46,320 absolutely yes because what's happening 2218 01:50:52,970 --> 01:50:51,239 now I think and I told now because I can 2219 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:52,980 talk to the girls about it 2220 01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:55,770 other extradimensional beings I can talk 2221 01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:58,080 about extradimensional this and that and 2222 01:51:01,399 --> 01:50:58,800 they dreams 2223 01:51:04,100 --> 01:51:01,409 Olivia was the Quran she's talking about 2224 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:04,110 she's talking about things of like she's 2225 01:51:10,820 --> 01:51:07,290 talking about the words that are written 2226 01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:10,830 in the Quran you know historical and 2227 01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:13,170 post articles sites and everything that 2228 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:16,170 grant in hand talk called cooks about in 2229 01:51:25,970 --> 01:51:22,010 that David will cut talks about Linda 2230 01:51:28,220 --> 01:51:25,980 not how talks about army who else is 2231 01:51:32,419 --> 01:51:28,230 that Emory blah blah blah blah but I 2232 01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:32,429 can't name them all and they're the 2233 01:51:41,630 --> 01:51:37,679 pioneers and we are the followers we are 2234 01:51:45,740 --> 01:51:41,640 but when leaders now our kids are going 2235 01:51:48,620 --> 01:51:45,750 to be in the Pentagon our kids my my 2236 01:51:51,860 --> 01:51:48,630 first granddaughter she's 10 in LA she's 2237 01:51:53,959 --> 01:51:51,870 their mother but her best friend and 2238 01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:53,969 they went she will be insolent partner 2239 01:51:59,540 --> 01:51:56,370 analysis well burn away by the size of 2240 01:52:01,220 --> 01:51:59,550 this right over there but the kids you 2241 01:52:03,649 --> 01:52:01,230 know were allowed on this one and that 2242 01:52:05,689 --> 01:52:03,659 one and her best friend is but what do I 2243 01:52:10,780 --> 01:52:05,699 see what do you want to do like when you 2244 01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:10,790 interest issue I wanna see a medical and 2245 01:52:17,450 --> 01:52:16,250 doctor Nessa an area and a astronaut 2246 01:52:20,950 --> 01:52:17,460 doctor 2247 01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:20,960 dispense and and my 2248 01:52:25,450 --> 01:52:24,290 seven-year-old she needs is like an 2249 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:25,460 encyclopedia 2250 01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:28,250 so these cans are like knowing that 2251 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:31,310 already nine now they want to study it 2252 01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:33,770 now that I want to talk about it now 2253 01:52:39,190 --> 01:52:35,360 they're calling Nana 2254 01:52:41,470 --> 01:52:39,200 Nana's old now that Nana was in the 70s 2255 01:52:45,130 --> 01:52:41,480 and they're landing on the moon sixties 2256 01:52:46,990 --> 01:52:45,140 born landing on the moon and then they 2257 01:52:56,340 --> 01:52:47,000 ask you to be holy things and I'm 2258 01:53:07,110 --> 01:53:01,450 reminding me I needed the time sciences 2259 01:53:10,300 --> 01:53:07,120 10-year periods of life shattering and 2260 01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:10,310 recreating myself again which is what I 2261 01:53:15,130 --> 01:53:12,890 think women do often throughout their 2262 01:53:18,310 --> 01:53:15,140 lives recreate themselves after great 2263 01:53:21,250 --> 01:53:18,320 shattering but shattering for not a 2264 01:53:23,710 --> 01:53:21,260 problem like to realize truths another 2265 01:53:30,060 --> 01:53:23,720 problem it's going forward and making 2266 01:53:34,330 --> 01:53:30,070 truth real and tangible and readable and 2267 01:53:37,060 --> 01:53:34,340 talkable between ourselves right and so 2268 01:53:39,730 --> 01:53:37,070 far I so I thought I've got a little 2269 01:53:41,590 --> 01:53:39,740 help from happy knowing no one I'll go a 2270 01:53:45,070 --> 01:53:41,600 little handful with people like I want 2271 01:53:48,580 --> 01:53:45,080 to see me talking that yesterday at all 2272 01:53:52,780 --> 01:53:48,590 whenever I see them and they're - it's 2273 01:53:54,970 --> 01:53:52,790 good it's also good and I'd I think was 2274 01:53:57,940 --> 01:53:54,980 anyway going to be analyzing everything 2275 01:54:00,220 --> 01:53:57,950 I'm a psychotherapist such it's theology 2276 01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:00,230 but then I went and tried 93 years of 2277 01:54:04,090 --> 01:54:01,010 therapy 2278 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:04,100 I think and and then four years and 2279 01:54:13,380 --> 01:54:08,170 caring and so forth the children that 2280 01:54:22,930 --> 01:54:18,490 yes yes and and and you have to think 2281 01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:22,940 about this when we were kids I'm talking 2282 01:54:29,260 --> 01:54:25,730 about you and myself right well we were 2283 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:29,270 kids and we're sitting around you know 2284 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:32,690 smoking weed in high school and and we 2285 01:54:36,430 --> 01:54:33,770 would we would 2286 01:54:39,670 --> 01:54:36,440 you know one day we're gonna run 2287 01:54:42,340 --> 01:54:39,680 Congress one day we're going to be the 2288 01:54:48,820 --> 01:54:42,350 politicians and and we're gonna make 2289 01:54:51,730 --> 01:54:48,830 weed legal when you can get out and do 2290 01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:51,740 it but but look where we are today right 2291 01:54:58,420 --> 01:54:54,890 and so you and we have to base 2292 01:55:02,680 --> 01:54:58,430 everything on our own experiences so you 2293 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:02,690 are right in that the generations the 2294 01:55:09,460 --> 01:55:05,690 Millennials and a next gen those 2295 01:55:11,050 --> 01:55:09,470 generations are going to eventually be 2296 01:55:12,580 --> 01:55:11,060 the politicians and the world leaders 2297 01:55:16,540 --> 01:55:12,590 and the government leaders and the 2298 01:55:19,570 --> 01:55:16,550 community leaders and they know et is 2299 01:55:21,310 --> 01:55:19,580 real they know we've been visited they 2300 01:55:23,890 --> 01:55:21,320 know that's the way they've been raised 2301 01:55:26,050 --> 01:55:23,900 and there's no what you know what you 2302 01:55:27,970 --> 01:55:26,060 know what my girls they did not how to 2303 01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:27,980 tell the difference between the daemon 2304 01:55:34,420 --> 01:55:31,610 and an 18 that's what I'm talking about 2305 01:55:46,150 --> 01:55:34,430 and so that's what exactly that's that 2306 01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:46,160 that is where we are going to be I oh I 2307 01:55:59,230 --> 01:55:53,340 he's amazing 2308 01:56:01,660 --> 01:55:59,240 but see you I cannot imagine what it 2309 01:56:03,970 --> 01:56:01,670 would be like in Australia in Parliament 2310 01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:03,980 and have you know everybody up there 2311 01:56:15,730 --> 01:56:07,970 arguing about et but it's gonna happen 2312 01:56:18,340 --> 01:56:15,740 right no no no one does come on when 2313 01:56:21,010 --> 01:56:18,350 that old Pentagon in December came out 2314 01:56:25,930 --> 01:56:21,020 it was on the newsmen and then I ran 2315 01:56:28,780 --> 01:56:25,940 some of us witness that Donna fifty 2316 01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:28,790 years you know starting down in 2317 01:56:38,110 --> 01:56:35,210 Melbourne but I ran it from the church 2318 01:56:44,830 --> 01:56:38,120 nor all that that were good and now in 2319 01:56:47,730 --> 01:56:44,840 the 50s people looking lovely talking 2320 01:56:52,180 --> 01:56:47,740 beautiful came back and 2321 01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:52,190 fifteen pound story game I love it it 2322 01:56:59,080 --> 01:56:56,000 was really me yes sir Oman suddenly on 2323 01:57:02,050 --> 01:56:59,090 the morning life it's kinda matter have 2324 01:57:04,450 --> 01:57:02,060 special people from right there that add 2325 01:57:09,940 --> 01:57:04,460 everything and science around come in 2326 01:57:17,070 --> 01:57:09,950 and talk about as well is not enough for 2327 01:57:19,780 --> 01:57:17,080 them to run with it but we know it's 2328 01:57:22,990 --> 01:57:19,790 it's gonna happen 2329 01:57:25,090 --> 01:57:23,000 Marilla I got to I got ahead to a break 2330 01:57:26,980 --> 01:57:25,100 here and take a commercial but thank you 2331 01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:26,990 so much and it's always great to hear 2332 01:57:32,500 --> 01:57:31,960 thank you so much have a great rest of 2333 01:57:35,110 --> 01:57:32,510 your day 2334 01:57:38,670 --> 01:57:35,120 see because out there I'll talk to 2335 01:57:41,350 --> 01:57:38,680 Marilla thank you out there it's her day 2336 01:57:42,970 --> 01:57:41,360 because she's a time traveler she's in 2337 01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:42,980 Australia it's fade to black 2338 01:57:48,700 --> 01:57:47,840 I mean OCB Church taking phone calls all 2339 01:57:49,570 --> 01:57:48,710 that fun 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02:02:42,140 --> 02:02:38,880 that will take you over to our landing 2433 02:02:44,930 --> 02:02:42,150 page at new manna and you can enter the 2434 02:02:47,900 --> 02:02:44,940 promo code right there and there you go 2435 02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:47,910 it's very cool it's an amazing deal 2436 02:02:54,020 --> 02:02:49,650 great discount best deal on the net by 2437 02:02:57,140 --> 02:02:54,030 the way and now the that it's the taste 2438 02:02:59,900 --> 02:02:57,150 it comes down to the taste when but that 2439 02:03:02,750 --> 02:02:59,910 emergency arises you really want to 2440 02:03:05,630 --> 02:03:02,760 impress your family for you know being 2441 02:03:08,420 --> 02:03:05,640 the king of the house that you are or 2442 02:03:09,620 --> 02:03:08,430 queen let's go back to the phones hi 2443 02:03:13,610 --> 02:03:09,630 you're live on fade to black who's 2444 02:03:16,030 --> 02:03:13,620 calling your lighter 2445 02:03:18,740 --> 02:03:16,040 you're lying here me yes who's calling 2446 02:03:21,860 --> 02:03:18,750 my name's Mike how you doing hi Mike how 2447 02:03:25,300 --> 02:03:21,870 are you oh I'm great I didn't actually 2448 02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:25,310 expect to get through well you did 2449 02:03:33,770 --> 02:03:31,290 what's on your mind tonight well quite a 2450 02:03:37,340 --> 02:03:33,780 few things but I'd like to talk a little 2451 02:03:40,850 --> 02:03:37,350 bit about on stellar mm-hmm I'm sure you 2452 02:03:43,310 --> 02:03:40,860 would too right you know it's an amazing 2453 02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:43,320 platform and I'm having such a great 2454 02:03:48,260 --> 02:03:45,330 time over there hanging out with 2455 02:03:53,350 --> 02:03:48,270 everybody but what do you want to talk 2456 02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:53,360 about uh well I created a group on there 2457 02:03:57,610 --> 02:03:55,410 it's actually called creative 2458 02:04:03,320 --> 02:03:57,620 connections 2459 02:04:04,130 --> 02:04:03,330 it's kind of like oh I'm nervous it's 2460 02:04:07,580 --> 02:04:04,140 okay it's okay 2461 02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:07,590 why did you want to create a group well 2462 02:04:13,790 --> 02:04:10,650 I wanted as many people to get together 2463 02:04:18,319 --> 02:04:13,800 on there and it's mostly actually about 2464 02:04:27,049 --> 02:04:23,089 in this kind of subject matter a lot of 2465 02:04:31,370 --> 02:04:27,059 your look a lot of people talk about how 2466 02:04:38,959 --> 02:04:31,380 they how I think it was the yogi that 2467 02:04:45,799 --> 02:04:38,969 the Beatles wind saw how he was what was 2468 02:04:47,540 --> 02:04:45,809 it well but my point is Mike it was easy 2469 02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:47,550 for you to set up that group on on 2470 02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:51,570 stellar right absolutely and how many 2471 02:05:00,859 --> 02:04:56,610 how many have joined oh I'm in over five 2472 02:05:05,330 --> 02:05:00,869 hundred I think knew oh holy crap it's 2473 02:05:07,899 --> 02:05:05,340 amazing that is amazing and and you know 2474 02:05:10,489 --> 02:05:07,909 what's really cool and I'm glad that you 2475 02:05:12,350 --> 02:05:10,499 one wanted to set up the group and that 2476 02:05:15,589 --> 02:05:12,360 it was easy to do and now you've got 2477 02:05:20,359 --> 02:05:15,599 five hundred members because on stellar 2478 02:05:23,899 --> 02:05:20,369 is such a focused focused platform it's 2479 02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:23,909 not focused on you know laser focused 2480 02:05:29,689 --> 02:05:26,880 it's focused on our community but our 2481 02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:29,699 community is broad right so it's not 2482 02:05:34,279 --> 02:05:31,530 just you opposed it's not health and 2483 02:05:38,629 --> 02:05:34,289 wellness it's not near-death experiences 2484 02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:38,639 or Bigfoot or astral projection it's not 2485 02:05:45,649 --> 02:05:41,570 it's it's all of and that is a wide 2486 02:05:48,979 --> 02:05:45,659 stroke of the pen right huge right so 2487 02:05:50,540 --> 02:05:48,989 agree you can leave your politics and 2488 02:05:52,759 --> 02:05:50,550 check that at the door you check your 2489 02:05:55,970 --> 02:05:52,769 attitude at the door you come here and 2490 02:05:59,450 --> 02:05:55,980 hang out but for you to be able to do 2491 02:06:02,979 --> 02:05:59,460 that the reason why in my opinion that 2492 02:06:07,609 --> 02:06:02,989 you were able to gather 500 people in 2493 02:06:11,629 --> 02:06:07,619 your in your group is because unlike 2494 02:06:16,549 --> 02:06:11,639 Facebook or other platforms everything 2495 02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:16,559 is out there so it's it's you're dealing 2496 02:06:20,660 --> 02:06:18,090 with people that have no idea what 2497 02:06:22,700 --> 02:06:20,670 you're talking about but I'm not stellar 2498 02:06:26,509 --> 02:06:22,710 you're able to put this group together 2499 02:06:28,850 --> 02:06:26,519 and and and get a gathering of 2500 02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:28,860 like-minded individuals and I commend 2501 02:06:34,340 --> 02:06:32,010 we've only had the platform up for and 2502 02:06:36,379 --> 02:06:34,350 what less than two weeks and you've got 2503 02:06:37,399 --> 02:06:36,389 500 people if you would have done this 2504 02:06:39,620 --> 02:06:37,409 on Facebook 2505 02:06:40,850 --> 02:06:39,630 you wouldn't I couldn't have done it no 2506 02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:40,860 way there's not that many like-minded 2507 02:06:47,270 --> 02:06:43,170 people out there for that right I don't 2508 02:06:49,669 --> 02:06:47,280 think so but I it's it's definitely easy 2509 02:06:52,430 --> 02:06:49,679 to get set up and I know that there's a 2510 02:06:54,340 --> 02:06:52,440 few fader knots on there as well and I 2511 02:06:59,570 --> 02:06:54,350 want to give a shout out to them and 2512 02:07:01,729 --> 02:06:59,580 just thought I'd uh yeah thank you for 2513 02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:01,739 that it worked out well on there okay 2514 02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:03,810 and a really quick I've got to get the 2515 02:07:07,399 --> 02:07:05,690 phone calls what's the name of the group 2516 02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:07,409 creative connections 2517 02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:11,250 Michael's group thank you for the phone 2518 02:07:16,060 --> 02:07:13,650 call Michael all right have a good night 2519 02:07:18,770 --> 02:07:16,070 you too great phone call right there and 2520 02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:18,780 it's one of the one of the wonderful 2521 02:07:25,399 --> 02:07:20,880 things about on stellar first off the 2522 02:07:26,750 --> 02:07:25,409 community is is a large one it's large 2523 02:07:29,090 --> 02:07:26,760 we're talking about millions and 2524 02:07:31,459 --> 02:07:29,100 millions and millions of people in the 2525 02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:31,469 paranormal supernatural conspiracy 2526 02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:34,770 community that covers everything right 2527 02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:40,110 but on stellar now has grown so much and 2528 02:07:45,350 --> 02:07:43,679 we're we're barely getting into the beta 2529 02:07:48,290 --> 02:07:45,360 stage which is going to be in the next 2530 02:07:51,890 --> 02:07:48,300 day or two and we're not officially 2531 02:07:54,859 --> 02:07:51,900 launched yet and it's crazy there are 2532 02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:54,869 thousands and thousands of people on on 2533 02:07:59,629 --> 02:07:57,840 stellar right now and you need to go and 2534 02:08:02,840 --> 02:07:59,639 set up your account it's simple to do 2535 02:08:05,300 --> 02:08:02,850 just go to an alpha and alpha dot on 2536 02:08:08,689 --> 02:08:05,310 stellar dot-com get your account set up 2537 02:08:13,959 --> 02:08:08,699 and and start hanging out it's really 2538 02:08:18,620 --> 02:08:13,969 cool I have I'm looking here I've got 2539 02:08:25,729 --> 02:08:18,630 almost 2,000 friends and I'm followed by 2540 02:08:27,890 --> 02:08:25,739 about 21 22 hundred people and that's 2541 02:08:32,479 --> 02:08:27,900 that's what's going on here right now 2542 02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:32,489 and it's it's a visible community that 2543 02:08:37,399 --> 02:08:34,770 you can go and make a difference for 2544 02:08:39,530 --> 02:08:37,409 yourself and I want I want to say this 2545 02:08:41,210 --> 02:08:39,540 I'm going to get to the 2546 02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:41,220 back to the phone calls here in a second 2547 02:08:49,010 --> 02:08:44,610 I'm gonna say this if you one of the 2548 02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:49,020 coolest things about on stellar is this 2549 02:08:56,180 --> 02:08:51,210 and you need to wrap your head around 2550 02:08:58,010 --> 02:08:56,190 this thought you are able to and you 2551 02:09:01,910 --> 02:08:58,020 maybe you've never done this before in 2552 02:09:07,370 --> 02:09:01,920 your life you are able to go write an 2553 02:09:09,710 --> 02:09:07,380 article maybe post an image a photograph 2554 02:09:14,270 --> 02:09:09,720 in it you are able to write an article 2555 02:09:18,410 --> 02:09:14,280 and post it and immediately get it 2556 02:09:21,260 --> 02:09:18,420 trending and get recognized and and have 2557 02:09:25,430 --> 02:09:21,270 people read your thoughts or your 2558 02:09:27,380 --> 02:09:25,440 research or your concerns and you've 2559 02:09:29,330 --> 02:09:27,390 never been able to do that before you 2560 02:09:34,270 --> 02:09:29,340 can't do that on other social media 2561 02:09:37,970 --> 02:09:34,280 platforms and this is a social media 2562 02:09:39,890 --> 02:09:37,980 platform and everything that you want to 2563 02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:39,900 do you know friends and groups and 2564 02:09:44,930 --> 02:09:43,050 events and and videos and uploads and 2565 02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:44,940 and likes and comments and all of that 2566 02:09:51,140 --> 02:09:47,850 you could it's great for that with no 2567 02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:51,150 advertising but you are able to go and 2568 02:09:56,090 --> 02:09:53,970 write an article when was the last time 2569 02:09:59,540 --> 02:09:56,100 you saw yourself on the bestseller list 2570 02:10:03,290 --> 02:09:59,550 on the New York Times it you know but 2571 02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:03,300 here you can do just that and and go and 2572 02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:04,800 click on the trending page which I'm 2573 02:10:08,330 --> 02:10:05,730 doing right now 2574 02:10:11,540 --> 02:10:08,340 and I'm looking at this trending page 2575 02:10:14,900 --> 02:10:11,550 and I can go down and look at all of 2576 02:10:17,450 --> 02:10:14,910 these different people that are are 2577 02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:17,460 trending and that you would have never 2578 02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:20,730 have heard from before or they would 2579 02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:23,690 have never been exposed to this platform 2580 02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:27,330 before and it's it's just absolutely 2581 02:10:33,170 --> 02:10:31,410 stunning to see how many articles by so 2582 02:10:36,290 --> 02:10:33,180 many people that are sitting here 2583 02:10:39,710 --> 02:10:36,300 trending and being read on all subjects 2584 02:10:41,330 --> 02:10:39,720 it is great and that's one of the 2585 02:10:43,790 --> 02:10:41,340 coolest things and honking everybody 2586 02:10:45,710 --> 02:10:43,800 messaging me ah I'll catch up to 2587 02:10:47,090 --> 02:10:45,720 everybody during the break let's go back 2588 02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:47,100 to the phones hi you live I'm fade to 2589 02:10:52,010 --> 02:10:48,530 black who's calling 2590 02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:52,020 hey Jimmy darrock squeaking man hey Eric 2591 02:10:58,850 --> 02:10:53,280 Awakening man 2592 02:11:00,680 --> 02:10:58,860 your name awakening man well when I got 2593 02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:00,690 on Twitter of fifty eight thousand 2594 02:11:06,680 --> 02:11:02,250 tweets ago about two and a half years 2595 02:11:09,860 --> 02:11:06,690 ago I knew that I was you know awakening 2596 02:11:11,900 --> 02:11:09,870 to this whole paranormal UFO you know 2597 02:11:12,380 --> 02:11:11,910 all of it I just it was just you know 2598 02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:12,390 Mike 2599 02:11:17,060 --> 02:11:15,210 to be quite frank for the first 50 years 2600 02:11:19,010 --> 02:11:17,070 of my life I had never used the Internet 2601 02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:19,020 I didn't have a computer I didn't have a 2602 02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:21,330 laptop I had nothing I didn't even give 2603 02:11:26,750 --> 02:11:24,690 it crap about it right and then I I went 2604 02:11:28,250 --> 02:11:26,760 to a really heavy illness for about 2605 02:11:29,900 --> 02:11:28,260 eight months and during that time I 2606 02:11:33,740 --> 02:11:29,910 couldn't work so I was just kind of home 2607 02:11:35,150 --> 02:11:33,750 bored got tired of watching TV and you 2608 02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:35,160 know I just decided I'm gonna get myself 2609 02:11:38,300 --> 02:11:37,410 a laptop and then I got in a loose lady 2610 02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:38,310 said you know you ought to get on 2611 02:11:43,070 --> 02:11:41,010 Twitter and then I met John Polk and 2612 02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:43,080 then it went from there so that's so I 2613 02:11:47,930 --> 02:11:45,570 started wakening to this reality that we 2614 02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:47,940 talk about on your show you know five 2615 02:11:51,650 --> 02:11:49,440 nights a week or four nights a week or 2616 02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:51,660 whatever right right right 2617 02:11:58,300 --> 02:11:54,690 okay well that answers the that that 2618 02:12:01,520 --> 02:11:58,310 that longing question that everybody has 2619 02:12:02,780 --> 02:12:01,530 all right good questions for you so I 2620 02:12:05,450 --> 02:12:02,790 want to tell you a really good story 2621 02:12:07,670 --> 02:12:05,460 then now is there and I'm on on stellar 2622 02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:07,680 but is there an app like Twitter in 2623 02:12:11,090 --> 02:12:09,570 other words where you can get an app and 2624 02:12:14,780 --> 02:12:11,100 just click on it or is that not set up 2625 02:12:19,310 --> 02:12:14,790 yet no we have to get the platform solid 2626 02:12:22,010 --> 02:12:19,320 first and as soon as that and then the 2627 02:12:23,780 --> 02:12:22,020 app will follow because there's no sense 2628 02:12:26,150 --> 02:12:23,790 in doing an app that the platforms not 2629 02:12:26,570 --> 02:12:26,160 running they got to work together right 2630 02:12:29,780 --> 02:12:26,580 right 2631 02:12:31,490 --> 02:12:29,790 okay so there's gonna be Jack's gonna be 2632 02:12:33,770 --> 02:12:31,500 a little bummed when we all jump over to 2633 02:12:35,690 --> 02:12:33,780 on stellar you know what I mean I wonder 2634 02:12:38,210 --> 02:12:35,700 if that's gonna happen how you need the 2635 02:12:42,230 --> 02:12:38,220 black on on stellar yeah and I like Jack 2636 02:12:45,830 --> 02:12:42,240 as you know and and Twitter has been 2637 02:12:47,780 --> 02:12:45,840 very cool to us and I I don't have any 2638 02:12:49,820 --> 02:12:47,790 issues with Twitter there are people 2639 02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:49,830 that do but the people that have issues 2640 02:12:55,190 --> 02:12:52,110 with Twitter is because they're doofuses 2641 02:12:57,710 --> 02:12:55,200 and they step out of line so but if you 2642 02:13:00,440 --> 02:12:57,720 stay inbounds and you play by the rules 2643 02:13:02,630 --> 02:13:00,450 Twitter's great you know Twitter 11 yeah 2644 02:13:03,550 --> 02:13:02,640 twitter twitter is amazing and I know 2645 02:13:05,740 --> 02:13:03,560 that 2646 02:13:09,970 --> 02:13:05,750 I don't know how many followers do I 2647 02:13:11,860 --> 02:13:09,980 have on on Twitter let me see no no no 2648 02:13:15,190 --> 02:13:11,870 no no it's something like that I got 2649 02:13:17,740 --> 02:13:15,200 like 70 to 78 it's it's up there 2650 02:13:19,450 --> 02:13:17,750 he'd only fallen about 81 people I mean 2651 02:13:21,430 --> 02:13:19,460 I don't I won't feel like I've actually 2652 02:13:22,990 --> 02:13:21,440 fully awakened until one day I looked 2653 02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:23,000 and you followed me on Twitter then I'll 2654 02:13:34,660 --> 02:13:31,040 know that I've awakened this is about C 2655 02:13:38,020 --> 02:13:34,670 but I know that when I do a tweet it 2656 02:13:41,170 --> 02:13:38,030 goes out to everybody you know and and 2657 02:13:45,490 --> 02:13:41,180 that's the problem that I have with with 2658 02:13:49,330 --> 02:13:45,500 Facebook and YouTube they control who 2659 02:13:52,510 --> 02:13:49,340 sees what and I don't know you know I 2660 02:13:55,330 --> 02:13:52,520 don't know you know I do a post on 2661 02:13:58,780 --> 02:13:55,340 Facebook I don't know if it's if two 2662 02:14:00,220 --> 02:13:58,790 people are gonna see it or 5,000 and I 2663 02:14:01,780 --> 02:14:00,230 know it's not 5,000 because they have 2664 02:14:06,270 --> 02:14:01,790 software that's running now and they 2665 02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:06,280 choke that back but on on stellar 2666 02:14:10,840 --> 02:14:08,480 everybody knew your friends list is 2667 02:14:12,580 --> 02:14:10,850 going to see what you post everybody 2668 02:14:15,930 --> 02:14:12,590 you're not gonna get choked back you're 2669 02:14:19,470 --> 02:14:15,940 not gonna get censored and that is a 2670 02:14:22,030 --> 02:14:19,480 paramount paramount an on stellar that 2671 02:14:25,240 --> 02:14:22,040 the reach and you're not gonna have I 2672 02:14:27,610 --> 02:14:25,250 don't think we'll see if the software 2673 02:14:30,070 --> 02:14:27,620 just starts to bog down I don't think 2674 02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:30,080 you need to have a limit on your friends 2675 02:14:36,250 --> 02:14:33,890 list I know how many friends I have on 2676 02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:36,260 my company page for fade to black 2677 02:14:41,500 --> 02:14:38,210 I don't know what we have over there but 2678 02:14:43,330 --> 02:14:41,510 it's you know it's 10,000 or 15,000 that 2679 02:14:46,930 --> 02:14:43,340 are over there what's the difference 2680 02:14:49,120 --> 02:14:46,940 with that versus friends why have the 2681 02:14:52,180 --> 02:14:49,130 limit of 5,000 friends I don't know what 2682 02:14:54,340 --> 02:14:52,190 that why that is there I have over on 2683 02:14:56,980 --> 02:14:54,350 Facebook you know what I logged out of 2684 02:15:01,180 --> 02:14:56,990 Facebook today I logged in while I 2685 02:15:02,980 --> 02:15:01,190 logged in for a second to to check on a 2686 02:15:04,510 --> 02:15:02,990 message I was expecting from somebody 2687 02:15:06,370 --> 02:15:04,520 and I logged out I'm not logged into 2688 02:15:09,310 --> 02:15:06,380 Facebook right now and I'm not 2689 02:15:13,859 --> 02:15:09,320 interested in it but so if I was logged 2690 02:15:19,689 --> 02:15:16,839 I don't know a couple of thousand friend 2691 02:15:23,049 --> 02:15:19,699 requests that are sitting there that I 2692 02:15:25,750 --> 02:15:23,059 can't interact with any of them and and 2693 02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:25,760 I can't go through and do anything with 2694 02:15:31,179 --> 02:15:28,159 that and that's not really cool to me 2695 02:15:33,310 --> 02:15:31,189 you know if somebody lies get it you 2696 02:15:34,750 --> 02:15:33,320 know you're that kind of guy you're kind 2697 02:15:36,429 --> 02:15:34,760 of stuck in the middle because you get 2698 02:15:38,379 --> 02:15:36,439 heart you're you're like a plate or not 2699 02:15:39,790 --> 02:15:38,389 I mean you're one of us but then you're 2700 02:15:41,830 --> 02:15:39,800 in the forefront now you're on the radio 2701 02:15:43,209 --> 02:15:41,840 I mean you just don't have the time of 2702 02:15:44,529 --> 02:15:43,219 the day to deal with everybody even 2703 02:15:46,540 --> 02:15:44,539 though in your heart you probably want 2704 02:15:47,889 --> 02:15:46,550 to I get that yeah but you know what 2705 02:15:51,939 --> 02:15:47,899 there's a lot of people out there that 2706 02:15:55,989 --> 02:15:51,949 want to see the images of me cooking 2707 02:15:59,379 --> 02:15:55,999 ribs on a Sunday you know what I mean 2708 02:16:03,219 --> 02:15:59,389 and I get that and I try to interact 2709 02:16:08,199 --> 02:16:03,229 with the any as many people as I can and 2710 02:16:11,349 --> 02:16:08,209 and I find that part of social media so 2711 02:16:14,409 --> 02:16:11,359 cool that I can really have a real time 2712 02:16:21,790 --> 02:16:14,419 conversation with somebody in Istanbul 2713 02:16:26,770 --> 02:16:21,800 right in in in the UK or or Brazil that 2714 02:16:28,959 --> 02:16:26,780 is that Japan that is so cool you know 2715 02:16:31,449 --> 02:16:28,969 and to have that worldwide connection 2716 02:16:34,660 --> 02:16:31,459 and it's instant well you're gonna have 2717 02:16:37,330 --> 02:16:34,670 that anon stellar and you're not gonna 2718 02:16:40,540 --> 02:16:37,340 get choked back I have gotten messages 2719 02:16:44,939 --> 02:16:40,550 from all around the world on on stellar 2720 02:16:47,769 --> 02:16:44,949 and from so many different countries and 2721 02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:47,779 this this was never you know I know I'm 2722 02:16:52,599 --> 02:16:50,330 talking about internet 101 here and we 2723 02:16:55,689 --> 02:16:52,609 all understand that we can connect 2724 02:16:58,660 --> 02:16:55,699 around the world but please understand 2725 02:17:00,939 --> 02:16:58,670 that we put this platform together and 2726 02:17:02,979 --> 02:17:00,949 launched it two weeks ago and the people 2727 02:17:04,929 --> 02:17:02,989 over at on stellar that and the 2728 02:17:09,459 --> 02:17:04,939 developers that are putting this 2729 02:17:13,780 --> 02:17:09,469 together 24 hours a day have reached out 2730 02:17:16,149 --> 02:17:13,790 to a community that is global and they 2731 02:17:17,919 --> 02:17:16,159 need a voice and they need to get 2732 02:17:19,780 --> 02:17:17,929 together and they don't want their data 2733 02:17:22,359 --> 02:17:19,790 stolen and they don't want to stare at 2734 02:17:24,070 --> 02:17:22,369 ads and they don't want to be censored 2735 02:17:26,030 --> 02:17:24,080 and they want to have a place where they 2736 02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:26,040 can get together and share ideas 2737 02:17:31,250 --> 02:17:28,170 and all of this was put together with 2738 02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:31,260 that in mind you know and you go and 2739 02:17:35,719 --> 02:17:32,969 he's surf around him you don't see 2740 02:17:38,540 --> 02:17:35,729 advertising it's just like it's a 2741 02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:38,550 weirdest it's the weirdest thing which 2742 02:17:43,849 --> 02:17:41,010 it's it's all over YouTube 2743 02:17:46,339 --> 02:17:43,859 I have people complaining to me I get 2744 02:17:51,740 --> 02:17:46,349 this email dude then take the ads out of 2745 02:17:55,790 --> 02:17:51,750 YouTube it's like you know it's it's 2746 02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:55,800 just and I understand that but it's just 2747 02:17:59,330 --> 02:17:57,359 part of the world that you live in you 2748 02:18:03,040 --> 02:17:59,340 go to YouTube you're going to see 2749 02:18:06,469 --> 02:18:03,050 advertising everybody monetizes YouTube 2750 02:18:06,950 --> 02:18:06,479 right and and so and this is what's 2751 02:18:09,110 --> 02:18:06,960 funny 2752 02:18:10,969 --> 02:18:09,120 I you know I get these emails dude man 2753 02:18:12,559 --> 02:18:10,979 take your ads off of youtube well and 2754 02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:12,569 then you had the other side of the coin 2755 02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:16,559 you have somebody that is posting 2756 02:18:21,799 --> 02:18:19,290 uploading videos on YouTube YouTube 2757 02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:21,809 decides that they're content shouldn't 2758 02:18:26,809 --> 02:18:24,479 is an advertiser friendly they remove 2759 02:18:28,730 --> 02:18:26,819 the ads and then they complain Facebook 2760 02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:28,740 took our YouTube took away my 2761 02:18:35,660 --> 02:18:30,479 advertising we'll wait a minute 2762 02:18:38,089 --> 02:18:35,670 do you just like III don't get that part 2763 02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:38,099 of it and that you know the shooter that 2764 02:18:44,059 --> 02:18:40,889 went up and shot up YouTube was upset 2765 02:18:47,629 --> 02:18:44,069 over that so you're not gonna have that 2766 02:18:49,580 --> 02:18:47,639 alright on stellar alright so the app or 2767 02:18:52,520 --> 02:18:49,590 do I gotta ask you have you been to the 2768 02:18:56,209 --> 02:18:52,530 integratron or the giant rocks drove 2769 02:18:57,889 --> 02:18:56,219 past it okay so I'm just inviting you 2770 02:18:59,270 --> 02:18:57,899 and read a formally and I'll make 2771 02:19:02,540 --> 02:18:59,280 arrangements however we have to but 2772 02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:02,550 Friday at 1 o'clock at the Indian Wells 2773 02:19:07,070 --> 02:19:05,040 Renaissance Hotel there's a convoy 2774 02:19:09,500 --> 02:19:07,080 rattles in and a bunch of us are gonna 2775 02:19:10,969 --> 02:19:09,510 go out there it's and we're gonna do 2776 02:19:12,169 --> 02:19:10,979 that so if you I'm just inviting you to 2777 02:19:14,089 --> 02:19:12,179 it'd be kind of fun we're gonna have a 2778 02:19:15,589 --> 02:19:14,099 good time out there and there's going to 2779 02:19:17,059 --> 02:19:15,599 be some stories being told so it'd be 2780 02:19:20,150 --> 02:19:17,069 kind of cool if you can make it just to 2781 02:19:23,150 --> 02:19:20,160 let you know yeah and thank you for the 2782 02:19:25,219 --> 02:19:23,160 invite definitely if we can't make it do 2783 02:19:26,839 --> 02:19:25,229 me a favor shoot a lot of video whoa 2784 02:19:29,599 --> 02:19:26,849 you're gonna have your iPad with you 2785 02:19:31,759 --> 02:19:29,609 that thing doesn't ever shut off but 2786 02:19:34,309 --> 02:19:31,769 yeah shoot some video shoot some video 2787 02:19:35,870 --> 02:19:34,319 yeah okay real quick cuz I know I don't 2788 02:19:38,270 --> 02:19:35,880 want to eat up all this time here but 2789 02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:38,280 this is important I think so you know I 2790 02:19:41,990 --> 02:19:39,690 told you about my sighting last 2791 02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:42,000 we can and so the next day I woke up and 2792 02:19:46,190 --> 02:19:44,730 you know I'm sure you know you remember 2793 02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:46,200 that day that or you've seen a few 2794 02:19:49,791 --> 02:19:47,730 things that black triangle I remember 2795 02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:49,801 you talked about you know you wake up 2796 02:19:53,570 --> 02:19:51,570 the next day and you're just you know 2797 02:19:55,490 --> 02:19:53,580 you you're you weren't hallucinating but 2798 02:19:57,530 --> 02:19:55,500 you're just trying to figure it out so I 2799 02:19:59,871 --> 02:19:57,540 actually was trying to kind of debunk my 2800 02:20:02,711 --> 02:19:59,881 own sighting so on my way home I stopped 2801 02:20:05,930 --> 02:20:02,721 in Mojave California over there at the 2802 02:20:08,570 --> 02:20:05,940 Mojave spaceport where Virgin Galactic 2803 02:20:10,161 --> 02:20:08,580 is and straddle launch Paul Allen and 2804 02:20:11,990 --> 02:20:10,171 they're building those spacecraft out 2805 02:20:15,081 --> 02:20:12,000 there yeah I've been I was kind of blown 2806 02:20:19,131 --> 02:20:15,091 away out there yet I've got I've got 2807 02:20:20,930 --> 02:20:19,141 pictures of me and Branson 2808 02:20:24,700 --> 02:20:20,940 Rita whatever happened to those pictures 2809 02:20:29,270 --> 02:20:24,710 I've got pictures of me and Branson 2810 02:20:32,961 --> 02:20:29,280 standing next to the the one that 2811 02:20:37,640 --> 02:20:32,971 crashed before a crash on the run on the 2812 02:20:39,350 --> 02:20:37,650 runway two of us really mm-hmm well they 2813 02:20:42,051 --> 02:20:39,360 just three weeks ago I didn't know this 2814 02:20:44,841 --> 02:20:42,061 so just Friday last week that they did a 2815 02:20:46,970 --> 02:20:44,851 launch and anyway the only reason why I 2816 02:20:49,131 --> 02:20:46,980 brought all that up is uh I had time to 2817 02:20:50,990 --> 02:20:49,141 kill so I went into the I'm not gonna 2818 02:20:52,791 --> 02:20:51,000 say where cuz I did talk to a lady that 2819 02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:52,801 worked there and I'm not so sure if I 2820 02:20:57,051 --> 02:20:54,570 should reveal her information but she 2821 02:20:58,671 --> 02:20:57,061 did tell me about six or seven minutes 2822 02:21:01,011 --> 02:20:58,681 of information that I found quite 2823 02:21:02,301 --> 02:21:01,021 interesting so I'm not going to go 2824 02:21:04,131 --> 02:21:02,311 through all that right now but the 2825 02:21:06,470 --> 02:21:04,141 bottom line was at the end of our little 2826 02:21:09,230 --> 02:21:06,480 chat I said to her I said you know I was 2827 02:21:10,911 --> 02:21:09,240 out there at the Mojave Desert the other 2828 02:21:13,881 --> 02:21:10,921 day and ice and I was looking at this 2829 02:21:15,501 --> 02:21:13,891 tower it look like a cell tower but I 2830 02:21:16,551 --> 02:21:15,511 don't know if it was a cell tower for 2831 02:21:18,740 --> 02:21:16,561 all I know it could have been some other 2832 02:21:21,470 --> 02:21:18,750 kind of tower and I said and then all of 2833 02:21:23,091 --> 02:21:21,480 a sudden this orb appeared and I looked 2834 02:21:25,220 --> 02:21:23,101 at it and then I you know I told her the 2835 02:21:26,900 --> 02:21:25,230 story and then she I said to her I 2836 02:21:28,551 --> 02:21:26,910 looked I said well this lady's fire 2837 02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:28,561 about fifty five six years old I said 2838 02:21:33,171 --> 02:21:30,960 what do you think that was and without 2839 02:21:36,650 --> 02:21:33,181 hesitation she says you know we have a 2840 02:21:38,180 --> 02:21:36,660 lot of exotic technology those are exact 2841 02:21:40,220 --> 02:21:38,190 I mean without even missing a beat she 2842 02:21:43,070 --> 02:21:40,230 was we have a lot of exotic technology I 2843 02:21:44,570 --> 02:21:43,080 thought for myself oh man could we could 2844 02:21:47,390 --> 02:21:44,580 we actually have technology that would 2845 02:21:49,850 --> 02:21:47,400 create an illusion have you ever thought 2846 02:21:52,610 --> 02:21:49,860 about that I mean with 5g coming and 2847 02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:52,620 this you know this so-called fake alien 2848 02:21:55,070 --> 02:21:53,610 and age 2849 02:21:57,051 --> 02:21:55,080 that's been projected since way back in 2850 02:21:58,490 --> 02:21:57,061 order von Braun days that do you think 2851 02:22:00,051 --> 02:21:58,500 that they might already have these 2852 02:22:03,380 --> 02:22:00,061 towers set up or they could actually 2853 02:22:04,820 --> 02:22:03,390 project these objects in the sky to make 2854 02:22:06,020 --> 02:22:04,830 us think that we're seeing things that 2855 02:22:08,090 --> 02:22:06,030 we're not really seeing what do you 2856 02:22:12,590 --> 02:22:08,100 think about well have you ever seen the 2857 02:22:15,830 --> 02:22:12,600 concert footage of Ronnie James Dio no 2858 02:22:20,270 --> 02:22:15,840 okay I think you can see it's called do 2859 02:22:23,690 --> 02:22:20,280 returns or do you know the return and 2860 02:22:26,270 --> 02:22:23,700 and so it's a hologram we've seen Tupac 2861 02:22:30,170 --> 02:22:26,280 and and all that stuff but you watch 2862 02:22:34,820 --> 02:22:30,180 that that kind of those concerts they 2863 02:22:40,310 --> 02:22:34,830 did it was deal on tour and this 2864 02:22:42,051 --> 02:22:40,320 hologram of him is so bleep and real I'm 2865 02:22:44,810 --> 02:22:42,061 Seri and it's fun to watch you're 2866 02:22:47,420 --> 02:22:44,820 watching it and you're like no way right 2867 02:22:48,740 --> 02:22:47,430 and you think it's gonna be cartoonish 2868 02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:48,750 and you're gonna think it's gonna be 2869 02:22:55,940 --> 02:22:51,930 washed out or whatever it says it's 2870 02:23:03,200 --> 02:22:55,950 Ronnie so now it could they turn around 2871 02:23:04,610 --> 02:23:03,210 and do that in the sky if that if the 2872 02:23:07,310 --> 02:23:04,620 technology is commercially available 2873 02:23:10,400 --> 02:23:07,320 where you can go and do a concert tour 2874 02:23:12,500 --> 02:23:10,410 with Ronnie do and and sell tickets for 2875 02:23:16,430 --> 02:23:12,510 that and then what is the technology 2876 02:23:20,980 --> 02:23:16,440 that is available to the military right 2877 02:23:26,870 --> 02:23:20,990 at another level could it be impossible 2878 02:23:30,551 --> 02:23:26,880 the answer is yes now man 2879 02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:30,561 do you remember contacting the desert 2880 02:23:36,440 --> 02:23:33,450 last year the close encounters when they 2881 02:23:39,530 --> 02:23:36,450 did the hologram out in our desert with 2882 02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:39,540 the with the Close Encounters flying 2883 02:23:44,900 --> 02:23:42,210 saucer out there in the desert oh I 2884 02:23:46,370 --> 02:23:44,910 didn't see that last year but I didn't 2885 02:23:48,680 --> 02:23:46,380 see that part okay 2886 02:23:54,140 --> 02:23:48,690 I'm telling I felt the real UFO in the 2887 02:23:56,030 --> 02:23:54,150 sky no no no no no no no so they 2888 02:23:59,570 --> 02:23:56,040 projected this hologram out in the 2889 02:24:01,340 --> 02:23:59,580 desert of this flying saucer with lights 2890 02:24:02,250 --> 02:24:01,350 blinking on it sitting out is about a 2891 02:24:04,650 --> 02:24:02,260 quarter mile away 2892 02:24:07,469 --> 02:24:04,660 out in the desert behind the main stage 2893 02:24:09,330 --> 02:24:07,479 at night and I'm telling you I I was 2894 02:24:12,420 --> 02:24:09,340 sitting right there with Rita and 2895 02:24:14,969 --> 02:24:12,430 Victoria and a bunch of the fader nods 2896 02:24:19,880 --> 02:24:14,979 and I'm looking out at that thing and I 2897 02:24:22,860 --> 02:24:19,890 said to everybody if I if I was a dick I 2898 02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:22,870 would take a picture of this right now 2899 02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:26,170 with my cell phone and it will shoot a 2900 02:24:34,410 --> 02:24:28,890 video and post this up right now because 2901 02:24:36,570 --> 02:24:34,420 this and it's real it's real it's a 2902 02:24:39,330 --> 02:24:36,580 hologram it's out in the desert but you 2903 02:24:41,940 --> 02:24:39,340 if you have shot a video of that you 2904 02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:41,950 know and you know the concert footage 2905 02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:43,840 right and you go oh my god what's that 2906 02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:45,850 me pan the camera out and you're 2907 02:24:50,099 --> 02:24:48,250 shooting the video of this craft with 2908 02:24:55,769 --> 02:24:50,109 blinking lights out in the desert you 2909 02:25:00,559 --> 02:24:55,779 zoom in on it and that it's a real video 2910 02:25:05,550 --> 02:25:02,580 that's not what I'm saying here I'm 2911 02:25:09,990 --> 02:25:05,560 saying that if I did that I am shooting 2912 02:25:11,700 --> 02:25:10,000 a real video it's not CG it's not 2913 02:25:14,519 --> 02:25:11,710 something that's edited in it's not 2914 02:25:16,110 --> 02:25:14,529 aftereffect it's a real video of a craft 2915 02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:16,120 that's sitting out in the middle of the 2916 02:25:19,170 --> 02:25:18,010 desert the crap happens to be a hologram 2917 02:25:21,660 --> 02:25:19,180 but that doesn't matter 2918 02:25:24,300 --> 02:25:21,670 the point is it would be a convincing 2919 02:25:26,130 --> 02:25:24,310 video because the video is real and I 2920 02:25:27,599 --> 02:25:26,140 can have people's reaction I could have 2921 02:25:30,330 --> 02:25:27,609 every but we could be pointing at it we 2922 02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:30,340 can and but I'm not that kind of person 2923 02:25:35,809 --> 02:25:34,450 but if that can be done right then what 2924 02:25:38,820 --> 02:25:35,819 and that's commercially available 2925 02:25:40,559 --> 02:25:38,830 technology well what is what is the 2926 02:25:43,019 --> 02:25:40,569 Department of Defense have at their 2927 02:25:45,660 --> 02:25:43,029 disposal probably something pretty 2928 02:25:47,940 --> 02:25:45,670 convincing would they use it for what 2929 02:25:50,670 --> 02:25:47,950 Greer and others are talking about you 2930 02:25:52,530 --> 02:25:50,680 know there's this fake alien invasion 2931 02:25:55,260 --> 02:25:52,540 and that would be the next step and this 2932 02:25:57,150 --> 02:25:55,270 would be the great false flag and you 2933 02:25:58,860 --> 02:25:57,160 know what Ronald Reagan was talking 2934 02:26:02,760 --> 02:25:58,870 about if we had this threat you know 2935 02:26:06,150 --> 02:26:02,770 from from outer space would they use it 2936 02:26:09,630 --> 02:26:06,160 for those purposes my point is I made 2937 02:26:15,091 --> 02:26:09,640 this before Eric it would only work for 2938 02:26:17,730 --> 02:26:15,101 so long why because it's a hologram and 2939 02:26:20,671 --> 02:26:17,740 if if you saw something like that or I 2940 02:26:22,350 --> 02:26:20,681 did and you take your ar-15 of which you 2941 02:26:25,110 --> 02:26:22,360 probably have 10 at your house and you 2942 02:26:27,301 --> 02:26:25,120 go outside and you start shooting your 2943 02:26:28,591 --> 02:26:27,311 ar-15 at this thing and you realize that 2944 02:26:32,461 --> 02:26:28,601 the bullets are going straight through 2945 02:26:34,560 --> 02:26:32,471 it and that it's a projection then you 2946 02:26:38,400 --> 02:26:34,570 know the the great hoax is off the great 2947 02:26:42,091 --> 02:26:38,410 alien invasion is off you go and you you 2948 02:26:44,371 --> 02:26:42,101 start flying these things around over 2949 02:26:46,051 --> 02:26:44,381 Europe and somebody decides to start 2950 02:26:47,461 --> 02:26:46,061 shooting missiles at it and the missiles 2951 02:26:49,081 --> 02:26:47,471 are passing straight through it and they 2952 02:26:51,720 --> 02:26:49,091 realize that I was showing up on radar 2953 02:26:55,470 --> 02:26:51,730 and planes start driving through it 2954 02:26:58,201 --> 02:26:55,480 whatever and and and the other part is 2955 02:27:01,770 --> 02:26:58,211 the you got to get this hologram to 2956 02:27:05,430 --> 02:27:01,780 shoot back right or it's not an invasion 2957 02:27:08,341 --> 02:27:05,440 it's so so it's useless so that's my 2958 02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:08,351 that's my whole thing I just it would 2959 02:27:14,491 --> 02:27:11,530 only work for its shock value for a few 2960 02:27:18,211 --> 02:27:14,501 seconds but once it's you know it's not 2961 02:27:19,921 --> 02:27:18,221 shooting back flying plane I gotta give 2962 02:27:21,031 --> 02:27:19,931 the last part here this is one minute 2963 02:27:22,831 --> 02:27:21,041 maybe one and a half minutes because 2964 02:27:24,991 --> 02:27:22,841 this is the 180 that I've been saving 2965 02:27:29,161 --> 02:27:25,001 for you okay this is the best part of my 2966 02:27:29,791 --> 02:27:29,171 call this true story so so Friday I 2967 02:27:31,921 --> 02:27:29,801 couldn't 2968 02:27:34,921 --> 02:27:31,931 weirdly oddly enough I was out there 2969 02:27:36,421 --> 02:27:34,931 those were supposed to be cell towers I 2970 02:27:38,850 --> 02:27:36,431 picked up my thumb and tried to call 2971 02:27:40,741 --> 02:27:38,860 everybody and I couldn't get any phone 2972 02:27:42,781 --> 02:27:40,751 service that zero bars is that no 2973 02:27:44,551 --> 02:27:42,791 service I couldn't figure that out but 2974 02:27:47,791 --> 02:27:44,561 the next day I called up this guy that I 2975 02:27:49,230 --> 02:27:47,801 met in Sedona named Tom dango who's a I 2976 02:27:51,331 --> 02:27:49,240 hope you ever heard of him he's he's 2977 02:27:52,051 --> 02:27:51,341 been retired from UFO community for 2978 02:27:54,900 --> 02:27:52,061 about ten years 2979 02:27:58,501 --> 02:27:54,910 but he is a psychic and also a remote 2980 02:28:00,451 --> 02:27:58,511 viewer and and I told him the story and 2981 02:28:02,491 --> 02:28:00,461 he says wow that's interesting and then 2982 02:28:05,881 --> 02:28:02,501 I mean he calls me back later in the day 2983 02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:05,891 and he said that he remote viewed that 2984 02:28:10,770 --> 02:28:07,570 area that I was at and I'm not making 2985 02:28:13,980 --> 02:28:10,780 this up and he said that he was trying 2986 02:28:17,100 --> 02:28:13,990 to remote cue the orb and then all and 2987 02:28:18,690 --> 02:28:17,110 he said that these humanoid beings I 2988 02:28:19,350 --> 02:28:18,700 know this is gonna sound crazy and but 2989 02:28:21,121 --> 02:28:19,360 it's the truth 2990 02:28:22,470 --> 02:28:21,131 I'm not making this up these humanoid 2991 02:28:25,051 --> 02:28:22,480 beings and there's very beautiful 2992 02:28:27,031 --> 02:28:25,061 colorful shiny outfits all of them two 2993 02:28:28,920 --> 02:28:27,041 men and two women that kind of looked 2994 02:28:32,250 --> 02:28:28,930 Chinese looking about 2995 02:28:34,070 --> 02:28:32,260 all appeared in his in his remote view 2996 02:28:36,900 --> 02:28:34,080 vision and he had a conversation with 2997 02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:36,910 and they said that they were some from 2998 02:28:42,750 --> 02:28:39,460 some stars some star system that I've 2999 02:28:44,309 --> 02:28:42,760 never heard of before penpen a fall or 3000 02:28:45,479 --> 02:28:44,319 tennis tennis something or another I 3001 02:28:49,370 --> 02:28:45,489 can't remember right now 3002 02:28:52,170 --> 02:28:49,380 and so then Tom asked these guys he said 3003 02:28:54,479 --> 02:28:52,180 what what did you see Eric out there 3004 02:28:55,830 --> 02:28:54,489 what interest do you have in Eric and I 3005 02:28:59,729 --> 02:28:55,840 didn't know he was gonna do this and 3006 02:29:02,280 --> 02:28:59,739 they told Tom that this I swear to God 3007 02:29:03,929 --> 02:29:02,290 because we are the Watchers and we have 3008 02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:03,939 been watching Eric since he was five 3009 02:29:09,300 --> 02:29:06,850 years old we we watched Eric when we was 3010 02:29:12,750 --> 02:29:09,310 five and he met us when he was ten but 3011 02:29:15,420 --> 02:29:12,760 he probably won't remember that and that 3012 02:29:17,219 --> 02:29:15,430 blew my mind so now I'm down looking to 3013 02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:17,229 get some regression therapy I got a note 3014 02:29:21,090 --> 02:29:19,359 this is real or if this what to delist 3015 02:29:25,860 --> 02:29:21,100 but that's a true story I just told you 3016 02:29:28,559 --> 02:29:25,870 hmm very interesting very interesting 3017 02:29:30,300 --> 02:29:28,569 it's great when I got ahead to a 3018 02:29:31,889 --> 02:29:30,310 commercial Eric and as always thank you 3019 02:29:34,740 --> 02:29:31,899 for calling in but it's funny when he 3020 02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:34,750 right before Eric tells the story he 3021 02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:37,600 always says and this is true it's a true 3022 02:29:43,679 --> 02:29:38,160 story 3023 02:29:45,420 --> 02:29:43,689 Eric we love you man and soon you get 3024 02:29:46,830 --> 02:29:45,430 word to seeing a contact you got it 3025 02:29:48,900 --> 02:29:46,840 thank you so much every other fight 3026 02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:48,910 let's take a commercial break right here 3027 02:29:52,559 --> 02:29:51,010 love it when you get the phone call from 3028 02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:52,569 Eric you never know what's about to 3029 02:29:57,300 --> 02:29:55,600 happen when Eric calls into the show 3030 02:29:59,910 --> 02:29:57,310 this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy 3031 02:30:02,969 --> 02:29:59,920 Church I'm gonna keep the lines open I 3032 02:30:04,469 --> 02:30:02,979 wanted to I wanted to go over something 3033 02:30:06,570 --> 02:30:04,479 but you know what I'm enjoying the phone 3034 02:30:11,370 --> 02:30:06,580 call so we'll keep the phone lines open 3035 02:30:16,480 --> 02:30:11,380 3 2 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 5 4 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 3036 02:30:35,540 --> 02:30:32,320 [Music] 3037 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02:33:16,051 --> 02:33:13,120 feeling and looking 10 or 15 years 3093 02:33:18,091 --> 02:33:16,061 younger with nature's youth RSF it's a 3094 02:33:19,770 --> 02:33:18,101 doctor formulated daily supplement that 3095 02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:19,780 helps your body maintain its peak 3096 02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:21,490 performance and fight the aging process 3097 02:33:25,620 --> 02:33:24,130 imagine sleeping better looking better 3098 02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:25,630 and feeling better 3099 02:33:30,030 --> 02:33:28,090 see how Nature's youth RSF has helped 3100 02:33:32,730 --> 02:33:30,040 thousands of people just like you at 3101 02:33:35,220 --> 02:33:32,740 nature's use calm nature's youth calm 3102 02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:35,230 the holidays are coming imagine how it 3103 02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:36,610 will feel when your family and friends 3104 02:33:39,150 --> 02:33:38,530 are asking you what you did to look so 3105 02:33:41,551 --> 02:33:39,160 good 3106 02:33:43,440 --> 02:33:41,561 your secret will be nature's youth RSF 3107 02:33:45,870 --> 02:33:43,450 it's time to start looking better and 3108 02:33:48,270 --> 02:33:45,880 feeling better learn more in order your 3109 02:33:58,011 --> 02:33:48,280 nature's use RSF at nature's youth calm 3110 02:34:12,541 --> 02:34:01,711 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3111 02:34:17,310 --> 02:34:12,551 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 3112 02:34:17,320 --> 02:34:28,510 [Music] 3113 02:34:34,360 --> 02:34:30,860 welcome back fade to black I'm in Sumy 3114 02:34:36,830 --> 02:34:34,370 Church keeping the phone lines open I 3115 02:34:43,429 --> 02:34:36,840 had a whole thing I was gonna read I've 3116 02:34:47,059 --> 02:34:43,439 been trying to get this done and one 3117 02:34:51,860 --> 02:34:47,069 night I'm just going to I'm gonna do a 3118 02:34:54,050 --> 02:34:51,870 show with me write with me 3119 02:34:57,080 --> 02:34:54,060 I've got stuff you know I've got stuff 3120 02:35:00,440 --> 02:34:57,090 that I want to present and read and and 3121 02:35:02,599 --> 02:35:00,450 get out there so one night I swear 3122 02:35:05,570 --> 02:35:02,609 that's it that's it I'm just it's it's 3123 02:35:08,269 --> 02:35:05,580 gonna be it's gonna be me night I need 3124 02:35:12,530 --> 02:35:08,279 me time let's go to the phones hi you're 3125 02:35:12,979 --> 02:35:12,540 live on fade to black who's calling okay 3126 02:35:15,340 --> 02:35:12,989 you go 3127 02:35:17,570 --> 02:35:15,350 yeah turn me down in the background 3128 02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:17,580 sorry about that yeah I can't do that 3129 02:35:24,559 --> 02:35:21,210 can't do that okay who's calling hey Pat 3130 02:35:31,670 --> 02:35:24,569 hey Pat Pat from Illinois woods what 3131 02:35:34,070 --> 02:35:31,680 city in brief where's that you know 3132 02:35:36,349 --> 02:35:34,080 where Carlyle lake is oh man do you how 3133 02:35:38,150 --> 02:35:36,359 many lakes are in Illinois you're 3134 02:35:44,900 --> 02:35:38,160 playing Evan that's largest one in 3135 02:35:46,820 --> 02:35:44,910 Illinois you know it's funny I went and 3136 02:35:50,090 --> 02:35:46,830 looked it's funny you bring that up had 3137 02:35:52,160 --> 02:35:50,100 last week I was surfing around looking 3138 02:35:53,719 --> 02:35:52,170 at different places that I've lived you 3139 02:35:57,229 --> 02:35:53,729 know and looking at the old houses and 3140 02:35:59,330 --> 02:35:57,239 schools and stuff and I zoomed back and 3141 02:36:02,030 --> 02:35:59,340 I found diamond lake you know near 3142 02:36:03,830 --> 02:36:02,040 Mundelein and Tim on the one and I 3143 02:36:08,179 --> 02:36:03,840 assumed back off of that and there's 3144 02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:08,189 like right there's like 50 lakes and I 3145 02:36:11,929 --> 02:36:10,050 forgot you know Crystal Lake and all 3146 02:36:14,809 --> 02:36:11,939 these lakes that I used to go to when I 3147 02:36:18,170 --> 02:36:14,819 was a kid and I just I forgot about how 3148 02:36:18,710 --> 02:36:18,180 many lakes are there in in northern 3149 02:36:21,769 --> 02:36:18,720 Illinois 3150 02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:21,779 I can't speak for southern you know 3151 02:36:27,979 --> 02:36:24,450 again about 45 minutes from st. Louis oh 3152 02:36:31,790 --> 02:36:27,989 yeah yeah you're southern so same amount 3153 02:36:33,530 --> 02:36:31,800 though a lot of lakes down there yeah 3154 02:36:34,940 --> 02:36:33,540 lots a little lakes a lot of farmers 3155 02:36:37,219 --> 02:36:34,950 building their own Lakes you know so 3156 02:36:39,860 --> 02:36:37,229 yeah right right okay so what's on your 3157 02:36:40,910 --> 02:36:39,870 mind tonight hey I was calling up to 3158 02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:40,920 tell you about the first time 3159 02:36:44,870 --> 02:36:43,530 I ever experienced a paranormal okay doc 3160 02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:44,880 sixteen yeah 3161 02:36:48,740 --> 02:36:47,010 a buddy of mine his parents go out for 3162 02:36:50,929 --> 02:36:48,750 the weekend he calls me says hey man 3163 02:36:52,940 --> 02:36:50,939 come on over we were young we go over 3164 02:36:54,380 --> 02:36:52,950 there we're just watching movies all of 3165 02:36:55,790 --> 02:36:54,390 a sudden you know it's about time to go 3166 02:36:56,960 --> 02:36:55,800 to bed he's like oh man you know I'll 3167 02:36:59,179 --> 02:36:56,970 set you up downstairs in the basement 3168 02:37:01,940 --> 02:36:59,189 all right that's cool we go down there 3169 02:37:03,440 --> 02:37:01,950 so on the way down the stairs he's got a 3170 02:37:04,910 --> 02:37:03,450 dog and that dog starts staring at me 3171 02:37:07,429 --> 02:37:04,920 and barking I'm like what in the world 3172 02:37:09,380 --> 02:37:07,439 he goes just sidestep so I sidestepping 3173 02:37:12,140 --> 02:37:09,390 the dog staring in the same spot should 3174 02:37:13,969 --> 02:37:12,150 have known something then so bypassed 3175 02:37:15,560 --> 02:37:13,979 that go downstairs lay in the bed I'm 3176 02:37:17,030 --> 02:37:15,570 laying there he goes in his room which 3177 02:37:19,280 --> 02:37:17,040 is in the basement he shuts his door 3178 02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:19,290 right and I'm laying there and all of a 3179 02:37:23,929 --> 02:37:21,930 sudden I feel like something's next to 3180 02:37:25,670 --> 02:37:23,939 me and I'm like man Jay his name is Jay 3181 02:37:27,920 --> 02:37:25,680 that's a man go back to bed dude quit 3182 02:37:29,810 --> 02:37:27,930 bugging me you know and I said a couple 3183 02:37:31,940 --> 02:37:29,820 times finally I yelled you know I'm like 3184 02:37:33,500 --> 02:37:31,950 dude seriously and he yells from his 3185 02:37:36,560 --> 02:37:33,510 room he's like what are you yelling 3186 02:37:38,090 --> 02:37:36,570 about I'm like wonder how so as I'm 3187 02:37:39,679 --> 02:37:38,100 laying there I turned my face towards 3188 02:37:41,450 --> 02:37:39,689 the wall all of a sudden somebody's hand 3189 02:37:43,610 --> 02:37:41,460 grabs my shoulder 3190 02:37:44,810 --> 02:37:43,620 I couldn't yell I couldn't move I felt 3191 02:37:47,630 --> 02:37:44,820 pins and needles throughout in the whole 3192 02:37:49,400 --> 02:37:47,640 body all of a sudden I kept pushing and 3193 02:37:50,929 --> 02:37:49,410 it was like it just broke and when it 3194 02:37:55,070 --> 02:37:50,939 did I kind of rolled off the bed when I 3195 02:37:57,500 --> 02:37:55,080 did I swear I see a mist and it just 3196 02:38:00,980 --> 02:37:57,510 it's kind of like a lady kinda and it 3197 02:38:02,450 --> 02:38:00,990 just floated away okay boom I jump up in 3198 02:38:03,980 --> 02:38:02,460 the bed cover my head up and I'm like oh 3199 02:38:05,179 --> 02:38:03,990 man what in the world I'm tripping out 3200 02:38:07,160 --> 02:38:05,189 of something sad I don't know what's 3201 02:38:08,630 --> 02:38:07,170 going on never said nothing to it 3202 02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:08,640 next day calls me up and goes hey you 3203 02:38:11,570 --> 02:38:10,290 want to come spend the night again I'm 3204 02:38:12,890 --> 02:38:11,580 like hey I need to talk to you about 3205 02:38:14,960 --> 02:38:12,900 something man you're gonna think this is 3206 02:38:16,640 --> 02:38:14,970 weird I said well was there some weird 3207 02:38:19,340 --> 02:38:16,650 stuff happen to us oh man don't say 3208 02:38:20,929 --> 02:38:19,350 nothing I'm like what it was Ben I'll 3209 02:38:22,700 --> 02:38:20,939 come over and talk to you he comes over 3210 02:38:24,710 --> 02:38:22,710 and proceeded to tell me that there's 3211 02:38:27,620 --> 02:38:24,720 somebody in the house it's a woman and 3212 02:38:29,630 --> 02:38:27,630 at nighttime it used to tell stories to 3213 02:38:32,719 --> 02:38:29,640 his sister his sister at the time was 3214 02:38:34,910 --> 02:38:32,729 like seven or eight years old oh man and 3215 02:38:36,740 --> 02:38:34,920 it would move keys and anything you 3216 02:38:39,110 --> 02:38:36,750 would set down in the house it would 3217 02:38:41,480 --> 02:38:39,120 move and it would just sit there and 3218 02:38:42,980 --> 02:38:41,490 make weird noises for people and that's 3219 02:38:44,270 --> 02:38:42,990 why they wouldn't invite people to the 3220 02:38:45,500 --> 02:38:44,280 house I was the first person who ever 3221 02:38:47,300 --> 02:38:45,510 went to his house and stayed a night 3222 02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:47,310 with him you know because he's like only 3223 02:38:50,480 --> 02:38:49,200 the family knows well after that I knew 3224 02:38:51,800 --> 02:38:50,490 his family and I talked to his family 3225 02:38:53,870 --> 02:38:51,810 told him I said man why didn't you guys 3226 02:38:54,591 --> 02:38:53,880 tell us he was well we didn't want to 3227 02:38:56,480 --> 02:38:54,601 you know we 3228 02:38:58,070 --> 02:38:56,490 Tohno buddy that and then one of the 3229 02:39:00,020 --> 02:38:58,080 kids goes yeah 3230 02:39:03,171 --> 02:39:00,030 the grandpa was down there and it choked 3231 02:39:05,600 --> 02:39:03,181 him and I was like oh man oh man okay so 3232 02:39:08,841 --> 02:39:05,610 so I got to ask you about did he 3233 02:39:11,600 --> 02:39:08,851 describe you didn't tell he was telling 3234 02:39:14,961 --> 02:39:11,610 you right okay so the only person that 3235 02:39:16,881 --> 02:39:14,971 actually that would talk to the girl was 3236 02:39:18,350 --> 02:39:16,891 his sister which like I said was like 3237 02:39:19,671 --> 02:39:18,360 seven or eight years old but that lady 3238 02:39:21,860 --> 02:39:19,681 would go in there and read stories at 3239 02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:21,870 night because he actually caught her and 3240 02:39:25,341 --> 02:39:23,610 it disappeared but he didn't see it 3241 02:39:26,511 --> 02:39:25,351 disappear because he didn't see it but 3242 02:39:27,591 --> 02:39:26,521 when he walked into the room because he 3243 02:39:29,511 --> 02:39:27,601 heard his sister and he's like who are 3244 02:39:30,950 --> 02:39:29,521 you talking to and she turned around 3245 02:39:32,270 --> 02:39:30,960 looked at and says the lady tells me 3246 02:39:34,580 --> 02:39:32,280 stories at night when I can't sleep 3247 02:39:36,501 --> 02:39:34,590 they're telling me this after you know 3248 02:39:39,080 --> 02:39:36,511 I've already spent the night dude I've 3249 02:39:42,740 --> 02:39:39,090 never went back to that house now when 3250 02:39:50,291 --> 02:39:42,750 he did he described what she looked like 3251 02:39:53,780 --> 02:39:50,301 to you before you told him um no no okay 3252 02:39:57,620 --> 02:39:53,790 I'm wondering it's obviously well it 3253 02:39:59,690 --> 02:39:57,630 should be the same entity yeah it's the 3254 02:40:02,030 --> 02:39:59,700 same they actually had a paranormal 3255 02:40:03,350 --> 02:40:02,040 group go out there and actually said 3256 02:40:06,160 --> 02:40:03,360 that there's something in the house but 3257 02:40:08,810 --> 02:40:06,170 that's all they would tell him very they 3258 02:40:13,480 --> 02:40:08,820 still own the house and live there now 3259 02:40:17,421 --> 02:40:13,490 let's go back to your experience did you 3260 02:40:19,251 --> 02:40:17,431 hear anything was there any contact no 3261 02:40:22,070 --> 02:40:19,261 like I said it it touched my shoulder 3262 02:40:23,270 --> 02:40:22,080 and I couldn't move like if you're 3263 02:40:24,770 --> 02:40:23,280 laying on your side you're trying to 3264 02:40:26,301 --> 02:40:24,780 roll back over I couldn't roll over 3265 02:40:29,060 --> 02:40:26,311 because somebody it felt like somebody's 3266 02:40:30,501 --> 02:40:29,070 hand was pushing me and letting me turn 3267 02:40:32,541 --> 02:40:30,511 over and it was like pins and needles 3268 02:40:33,921 --> 02:40:32,551 throughout my body you know when your 3269 02:40:36,110 --> 02:40:33,931 foot falls asleep and you feel the pins 3270 02:40:38,091 --> 02:40:36,120 and needles yeah that was my whole body 3271 02:40:39,921 --> 02:40:38,101 and I couldn't move but it like I said I 3272 02:40:41,541 --> 02:40:39,931 finally broke it and when I did I rolled 3273 02:40:43,341 --> 02:40:41,551 over because I was pushing so hard it 3274 02:40:45,320 --> 02:40:43,351 just I guess when it stopped touching me 3275 02:40:47,091 --> 02:40:45,330 out rolled and when I did fell off you 3276 02:40:48,650 --> 02:40:47,101 know the bed a little bit looked up and 3277 02:40:50,330 --> 02:40:48,660 I just seen a mist and it was kind of a 3278 02:40:52,190 --> 02:40:50,340 shape of a lady like just floating and 3279 02:40:54,770 --> 02:40:52,200 went off and like I said I jumped back 3280 02:40:57,230 --> 02:40:54,780 up like over my head and was like okay 3281 02:41:00,501 --> 02:40:57,240 how do you know Pat that it was a lady 3282 02:41:03,890 --> 02:41:00,511 why do you say that because it the 3283 02:41:05,900 --> 02:41:03,900 figure was like a gown like when it was 3284 02:41:08,170 --> 02:41:05,910 floating it was like gown at the bottom 3285 02:41:10,790 --> 02:41:08,180 like kind of you know 3286 02:41:12,320 --> 02:41:10,800 Victorian era where they had the you 3287 02:41:14,720 --> 02:41:12,330 know the dresses that were big and poufy 3288 02:41:16,130 --> 02:41:14,730 it was like that and she was just 3289 02:41:18,650 --> 02:41:16,140 walking and you could just tell because 3290 02:41:20,301 --> 02:41:18,660 it was float any hair anything like that 3291 02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:20,311 or just a missed out oh I didn't know 3292 02:41:24,350 --> 02:41:22,170 like I said it was a mist but you could 3293 02:41:26,180 --> 02:41:24,360 just tell the outline you couldn't see 3294 02:41:30,740 --> 02:41:26,190 physically anything it was just kind of 3295 02:41:34,730 --> 02:41:30,750 faded out now this is this is that's a 3296 02:41:38,770 --> 02:41:34,740 Class A encounter by the way how are you 3297 02:41:41,840 --> 02:41:38,780 how are you how did your beliefs change 3298 02:41:43,580 --> 02:41:41,850 well you know brought up Christian never 3299 02:41:45,920 --> 02:41:43,590 you know stay away from that stuff but 3300 02:41:47,511 --> 02:41:45,930 after that happened it just like you 3301 02:41:49,400 --> 02:41:47,521 know your your whole world just kind of 3302 02:41:50,930 --> 02:41:49,410 changes because even to this day I sit 3303 02:41:53,120 --> 02:41:50,940 back and I go man maybe that was just 3304 02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:53,130 you know I don't know maybe I was just 3305 02:41:57,980 --> 02:41:55,200 young and you know sometimes you still 3306 02:41:59,840 --> 02:41:57,990 look back and kind of go try to put you 3307 02:42:04,730 --> 02:41:59,850 know something to it but you can't right 3308 02:42:06,320 --> 02:42:04,740 right and are you okay with it yeah yeah 3309 02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:06,330 I mean I'm good with it because you know 3310 02:42:10,160 --> 02:42:08,250 after that I kind of started talking to 3311 02:42:12,261 --> 02:42:10,170 more people and kind of got into it and 3312 02:42:14,360 --> 02:42:12,271 stuff now it doesn't bother me but still 3313 02:42:15,890 --> 02:42:14,370 once in a while you kind of it's like 3314 02:42:17,240 --> 02:42:15,900 you believe in the paranormal you're 3315 02:42:18,890 --> 02:42:17,250 into it you you know you read everything 3316 02:42:21,020 --> 02:42:18,900 get on on stellar reading everything 3317 02:42:22,670 --> 02:42:21,030 finding things out but then when it's 3318 02:42:23,810 --> 02:42:22,680 really happened to you sometimes you go 3319 02:42:25,970 --> 02:42:23,820 back and question that because you're 3320 02:42:28,400 --> 02:42:25,980 like man did that really happen right 3321 02:42:29,630 --> 02:42:28,410 right it's just so out there because 3322 02:42:30,920 --> 02:42:29,640 it's things I mean how many people 3323 02:42:34,011 --> 02:42:30,930 actually have something like that 3324 02:42:41,080 --> 02:42:34,021 happened not many right and what was 3325 02:42:44,900 --> 02:42:41,090 that sound did you hear that Wow I was 3326 02:42:47,780 --> 02:42:44,910 that was bizarre did the audience I got 3327 02:42:52,269 --> 02:42:47,790 to see this on Twitter was that my mind 3328 02:43:01,599 --> 02:42:57,200 did anybody hear that I got it after the 3329 02:43:04,760 --> 02:43:01,609 show I got to go back and play this 9:43 3330 02:43:06,860 --> 02:43:04,770 okay so 15 minutes towards the end of 3331 02:43:12,110 --> 02:43:06,870 the show all right yeah that was uh that 3332 02:43:16,460 --> 02:43:12,120 was pretty creepy sounding so life after 3333 02:43:18,710 --> 02:43:16,470 death right or interdimensional or 3334 02:43:21,219 --> 02:43:18,720 parallel worlds all of this is now 3335 02:43:25,309 --> 02:43:21,229 possible because of what you witnessed 3336 02:43:30,050 --> 02:43:25,319 certainly our simple little 3d existence 3337 02:43:32,809 --> 02:43:30,060 is and all there is correct but you can 3338 02:43:35,200 --> 02:43:32,819 also look at it like sometimes it's just 3339 02:43:37,490 --> 02:43:35,210 a moment in time and it just stays there 3340 02:43:40,340 --> 02:43:37,500 yeah everybody's saying that they heard 3341 02:43:43,880 --> 02:43:40,350 it you didn't hear that I heard it in my 3342 02:43:45,229 --> 02:43:43,890 headphones no I can hear you on the 3343 02:43:47,120 --> 02:43:45,239 phone and that's it I got everything 3344 02:44:00,469 --> 02:43:47,130 else kind of turned down Wow 3345 02:44:03,200 --> 02:44:00,479 it sounded like Michael yeah oh man 3346 02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:03,210 somebody just said Jimmy that made my 3347 02:44:08,780 --> 02:44:06,050 heart start beating faster I heard it 3348 02:44:11,360 --> 02:44:08,790 Jimmy big fun I heard it sounded exactly 3349 02:44:14,059 --> 02:44:11,370 like what you said creepy noise I heard 3350 02:44:16,910 --> 02:44:14,069 it what the heck was that sound I heard 3351 02:44:19,550 --> 02:44:16,920 it there's like 50 tweets right in a row 3352 02:44:22,670 --> 02:44:19,560 boom ba ba ba ba ba boom yeah that was 3353 02:44:25,189 --> 02:44:22,680 weird man that was weird and it was 3354 02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:25,199 through I'm just sitting here you guys 3355 02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:27,600 are watching me on the bunker cam you 3356 02:44:33,500 --> 02:44:30,000 I'm not pressing any buttons I'm not 3357 02:44:34,250 --> 02:44:33,510 doing anything and it just like came 3358 02:44:37,969 --> 02:44:34,260 through 3359 02:44:40,519 --> 02:44:37,979 I have noise gates and stuff so I'm in a 3360 02:44:42,889 --> 02:44:40,529 perfectly quiet I'm in the bunker right 3361 02:44:45,380 --> 02:44:42,899 so it's quiet in here so if I take off 3362 02:44:48,439 --> 02:44:45,390 my headphones like this right this is 3363 02:44:49,130 --> 02:44:48,449 the is the quietest thing you've ever 3364 02:44:53,570 --> 02:44:49,140 heard 3365 02:44:56,240 --> 02:44:53,580 so I don't wow that was that was weird 3366 02:44:59,689 --> 02:44:56,250 man it was cool whatever was it was cool 3367 02:45:01,099 --> 02:44:59,699 well that's an amazing now did you go 3368 02:45:04,581 --> 02:45:01,109 back that's what I meant to ask did you 3369 02:45:07,640 --> 02:45:04,591 go back no no I never went back to the 3370 02:45:10,011 --> 02:45:07,650 why not well I was good with everything 3371 02:45:12,081 --> 02:45:10,021 until the one person and his family told 3372 02:45:17,301 --> 02:45:12,091 me oh yeah choked our Grandpa's like I'm 3373 02:45:20,570 --> 02:45:17,311 not going back there because let's 3374 02:45:22,190 --> 02:45:20,580 taking chances I'm with you on that was 3375 02:45:24,440 --> 02:45:22,200 like I said it was the first time that 3376 02:45:25,371 --> 02:45:24,450 ever happened so it was like it would 3377 02:45:27,501 --> 02:45:25,381 just through me first 3378 02:45:30,770 --> 02:45:27,511 you know loop well and you said it 3379 02:45:33,201 --> 02:45:30,780 yourself you it touched you so you know 3380 02:45:37,490 --> 02:45:33,211 that it has the the ability to go 3381 02:45:40,011 --> 02:45:37,500 physical right yeah man Pat that's an 3382 02:45:43,461 --> 02:45:40,021 amazing amazing that's a life-changing 3383 02:45:44,780 --> 02:45:43,471 event you're right I'll call sometime 3384 02:45:47,331 --> 02:45:44,790 and give you some more because I've had 3385 02:45:49,881 --> 02:45:47,341 other things throughout my life I want 3386 02:45:52,881 --> 02:45:49,891 to hear at all thank you so much friend 3387 02:45:54,081 --> 02:45:52,891 be safe thank you sir bye Thank You Pat 3388 02:46:03,081 --> 02:45:54,091 that's a great phone call right there 3389 02:46:05,961 --> 02:46:03,091 and for an entity to go physical that's 3390 02:46:09,051 --> 02:46:05,971 a trippy thing but right in the middle 3391 02:46:12,501 --> 02:46:09,061 of him telling that story we had the 3392 02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:12,511 ghost effect that was what that was I 3393 02:46:17,841 --> 02:46:16,080 don't even know I've got to go back in 3394 02:46:19,671 --> 02:46:17,851 and listen to it somebody just said it 3395 02:46:21,951 --> 02:46:19,681 sounded like the Death Star powering up 3396 02:46:22,520 --> 02:46:21,961 that's from Roger Phillip says Doppler 3397 02:46:27,081 --> 02:46:22,530 effect 3398 02:46:33,201 --> 02:46:27,091 Tampa Rick he hurted swoosh I run gratos 3399 02:46:35,390 --> 02:46:33,211 cans it sounded like your mind to me 3400 02:46:39,381 --> 02:46:35,400 that was a low-frequency hum that 3401 02:46:42,291 --> 02:46:39,391 happens now and then yeah like her to 3402 02:46:42,921 --> 02:46:42,301 Jimmy yeah that's uh that was good that 3403 02:46:45,980 --> 02:46:42,931 was cool 3404 02:46:47,091 --> 02:46:45,990 alright let's uh go back suppose now 3405 02:46:47,860 --> 02:46:47,101 you're live I'm fade to black who's 3406 02:46:50,810 --> 02:46:47,870 calling 3407 02:46:52,551 --> 02:46:50,820 hey Jimmy this was Ronnie how you doing 3408 02:46:54,490 --> 02:46:52,561 tonight I'm doing good Ronnie how are 3409 02:46:57,560 --> 02:46:54,500 you that's the question 3410 02:47:00,051 --> 02:46:57,570 fantastic I called once before I was I 3411 02:47:01,850 --> 02:47:00,061 don't know if you remember I asked you 3412 02:47:05,270 --> 02:47:01,860 about Jon Rappoport if he was the same 3413 02:47:07,430 --> 02:47:05,280 guy for mash but um oh yeah that's right 3414 02:47:09,831 --> 02:47:07,440 that's right yes yeah that's beside the 3415 02:47:12,621 --> 02:47:09,841 point but I had a little paranormal 3416 02:47:14,360 --> 02:47:12,631 story I'd like to share with you alright 3417 02:47:17,511 --> 02:47:14,370 let me ask you this did you hear that 3418 02:47:18,170 --> 02:47:17,521 strange sound a few seconds ago I did 3419 02:47:22,389 --> 02:47:18,180 hear it 3420 02:47:25,790 --> 02:47:22,399 what what what was it I have no idea 3421 02:47:28,580 --> 02:47:25,800 what did it sound like I mean it's just 3422 02:47:31,160 --> 02:47:28,590 like what you described I mean it was 3423 02:47:37,939 --> 02:47:31,170 very faint but I did hear it it was 3424 02:47:40,820 --> 02:47:37,949 crazy and it just it it was I don't know 3425 02:47:45,349 --> 02:47:40,830 I don't know it I don't know it would it 3426 02:47:48,740 --> 02:47:45,359 didn't sound didn't sound artificial it 3427 02:47:50,780 --> 02:47:48,750 didn't sound like you know uh you know 3428 02:47:52,849 --> 02:47:50,790 maybe that last callers ghost is 3429 02:47:57,099 --> 02:47:52,859 visiting you I'm telling you what I mean 3430 02:48:01,550 --> 02:47:57,109 I'm in a completely soundproof room 3431 02:48:04,250 --> 02:48:01,560 completely right it goes through that's 3432 02:48:07,639 --> 02:48:04,260 the question now that was that was 3433 02:48:11,540 --> 02:48:07,649 bizarre okay okay so tell me about your 3434 02:48:15,740 --> 02:48:11,550 experience well this is kind of strange 3435 02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:15,750 it was a few years ago every night when 3436 02:48:21,710 --> 02:48:18,210 I would go to bed the first first time 3437 02:48:24,469 --> 02:48:21,720 it happened I I was laying there and you 3438 02:48:29,420 --> 02:48:24,479 know kind of half asleep and I felt like 3439 02:48:31,219 --> 02:48:29,430 a cat jumped on the bed and you know 3440 02:48:36,170 --> 02:48:31,229 walked around in circles a couple times 3441 02:48:38,389 --> 02:48:36,180 and then laid down and we didn't have a 3442 02:48:41,450 --> 02:48:38,399 cat at that time our cat had passed away 3443 02:48:46,010 --> 02:48:41,460 but it had been several months since our 3444 02:48:49,189 --> 02:48:46,020 cat had died so the first night I kind 3445 02:48:51,080 --> 02:48:49,199 of just shrugged it off as you know I'm 3446 02:48:52,849 --> 02:48:51,090 just imagining things or that didn't 3447 02:48:56,179 --> 02:48:52,859 really happen or you know I was half 3448 02:49:00,950 --> 02:48:56,189 asleep who knows but then the next night 3449 02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:00,960 it happened to give still I'm kind of 3450 02:49:07,450 --> 02:49:04,800 not really believing that this is real 3451 02:49:12,019 --> 02:49:07,460 still thinking I'm just imagining this 3452 02:49:14,960 --> 02:49:12,029 until this went on every night night 3453 02:49:17,240 --> 02:49:14,970 after night after night and it I swear 3454 02:49:20,210 --> 02:49:17,250 it was a good six months and I would lay 3455 02:49:22,460 --> 02:49:20,220 there and just pretend like I was asleep 3456 02:49:25,639 --> 02:49:22,470 but I was awake waiting for this to 3457 02:49:27,290 --> 02:49:25,649 happen and I would reach my hand behind 3458 02:49:30,110 --> 02:49:27,300 me because it was always in the same 3459 02:49:31,700 --> 02:49:30,120 place where like behind my leg that lay 3460 02:49:34,100 --> 02:49:31,710 on my side right and 3461 02:49:35,780 --> 02:49:34,110 it would curl up behind my legs and I 3462 02:49:40,490 --> 02:49:35,790 would reach my hand back there and feel 3463 02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:40,500 nothing there ah do this this was really 3464 02:49:48,560 --> 02:49:42,479 strange and then it just as suddenly as 3465 02:49:53,540 --> 02:49:48,570 it started it quit happening oh man were 3466 02:49:56,420 --> 02:49:53,550 you okay what what at the time were you 3467 02:49:58,070 --> 02:49:56,430 doing anything that could have caused us 3468 02:50:00,020 --> 02:49:58,080 were you listening to late-night 3469 02:50:00,560 --> 02:50:00,030 paranormal radio shows and trying to 3470 02:50:03,650 --> 02:50:00,570 fall asleep 3471 02:50:07,310 --> 02:50:03,660 did you just know every movie were you 3472 02:50:10,250 --> 02:50:07,320 playing Ouija boards where you do 3473 02:50:13,430 --> 02:50:10,260 nothing at all nothing that I've you 3474 02:50:15,440 --> 02:50:13,440 know watching TV whatever show happened 3475 02:50:17,750 --> 02:50:15,450 to be on that night I you know I used to 3476 02:50:21,020 --> 02:50:17,760 watch a lot of Discovery Channel History 3477 02:50:26,360 --> 02:50:21,030 Channel stuff like that right anything 3478 02:50:30,050 --> 02:50:26,370 else going been in the house my wife had 3479 02:50:32,780 --> 02:50:30,060 had some experiences but she's really 3480 02:50:36,110 --> 02:50:32,790 sensitive to that sort of thing so that 3481 02:50:37,219 --> 02:50:36,120 I mean she's always had experiences ever 3482 02:50:41,870 --> 02:50:37,229 since she was a child 3483 02:50:45,800 --> 02:50:41,880 great seeing things seeing people stuff 3484 02:50:47,930 --> 02:50:45,810 like that but she never experienced the 3485 02:50:50,450 --> 02:50:47,940 the cat or whatever it was I called her 3486 02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:50,460 our ghost cats we had a ghost cat that 3487 02:50:58,670 --> 02:50:54,810 has that is crazy and now who lived in 3488 02:51:01,400 --> 02:50:58,680 the house before you I don't know it was 3489 02:51:03,350 --> 02:51:01,410 a we were renting it at the time that 3490 02:51:05,960 --> 02:51:03,360 was the house we were renting Oh 3491 02:51:08,300 --> 02:51:05,970 so how long did you live in the house I 3492 02:51:10,969 --> 02:51:08,310 you know up to that point a couple of 3493 02:51:13,700 --> 02:51:10,979 years nerd just a couple of years yeah 3494 02:51:16,670 --> 02:51:13,710 so anything could have happened before 3495 02:51:21,010 --> 02:51:16,680 you move you're sure and it was fairly 3496 02:51:25,640 --> 02:51:21,020 it was a duplex and it was a fairly old 3497 02:51:27,850 --> 02:51:25,650 duplex as a matter of fact I believe it 3498 02:51:31,460 --> 02:51:27,860 was built the time we live in in Florida 3499 02:51:35,060 --> 02:51:31,470 really didn't exist before you know 3500 02:51:37,460 --> 02:51:35,070 early 1970s and then it just kind of 3501 02:51:40,040 --> 02:51:37,470 popped up and this just I actually found 3502 02:51:43,520 --> 02:51:40,050 a date when I was working on the air 3503 02:51:45,140 --> 02:51:43,530 conditioner a date in there of like 1976 3504 02:51:50,780 --> 02:51:45,150 I think it was Brian 3505 02:51:53,841 --> 02:51:50,790 when that thing was installed the the 3506 02:51:58,310 --> 02:51:53,851 the people that because I've done it 3507 02:52:00,381 --> 02:51:58,320 that go and rent you know I've rented my 3508 02:52:05,001 --> 02:52:00,391 whole life until I you know we bought 3509 02:52:07,490 --> 02:52:05,011 our house so you never know you know and 3510 02:52:09,621 --> 02:52:07,500 you know and you just don't know you you 3511 02:52:12,230 --> 02:52:09,631 go and you put your bed in a in a new 3512 02:52:16,131 --> 02:52:12,240 bedroom and you move into this apartment 3513 02:52:18,860 --> 02:52:16,141 or duplex or a house or whatever you do 3514 02:52:19,850 --> 02:52:18,870 not know what went on in that room 3515 02:52:25,341 --> 02:52:19,860 before you were there 3516 02:52:28,610 --> 02:52:25,351 I mean craziest maybe nothing right but 3517 02:52:30,341 --> 02:52:28,620 now and so when you are telling me 3518 02:52:36,131 --> 02:52:30,351 that's you're in a rented room and 3519 02:52:40,190 --> 02:52:36,141 you've got what appears to be some being 3520 02:52:42,801 --> 02:52:40,200 crawling into bed with you and and lying 3521 02:52:44,990 --> 02:52:42,811 there and it didn't happen 3522 02:52:47,631 --> 02:52:45,000 you know right after we first moved in 3523 02:52:49,881 --> 02:52:47,641 there we had been there a while and it 3524 02:52:53,511 --> 02:52:49,891 it started happening did you ask your 3525 02:52:55,310 --> 02:52:53,521 neighbors you know no I didn't say 3526 02:52:58,940 --> 02:52:55,320 anything to the neighbors I told a few 3527 02:53:01,100 --> 02:52:58,950 of my friends about it and you know they 3528 02:53:02,841 --> 02:53:01,110 kind of just laughed it off and I don't 3529 02:53:04,881 --> 02:53:02,851 know what to tell you we got to go scat 3530 02:53:07,220 --> 02:53:04,891 you know I I thought I was imagining 3531 02:53:08,450 --> 02:53:07,230 things but when it happens every night 3532 02:53:13,430 --> 02:53:08,460 like clockwork 3533 02:53:18,020 --> 02:53:13,440 oh man that's that's that's that's oh 3534 02:53:23,631 --> 02:53:18,030 that's a really good I almost said 3535 02:53:25,220 --> 02:53:23,641 sighting encounter but after it ended I 3536 02:53:27,980 --> 02:53:25,230 mean I always asked everybody the same 3537 02:53:29,990 --> 02:53:27,990 question because it's I have to ask 3538 02:53:34,331 --> 02:53:30,000 myself this question and it's an easy 3539 02:53:37,070 --> 02:53:34,341 one which is were you cool with it 3540 02:53:39,621 --> 02:53:37,080 yeah I mean it it didn't really bother 3541 02:53:40,910 --> 02:53:39,631 me late you know it's not like I jumped 3542 02:53:43,430 --> 02:53:40,920 out of bed and wasn't sleeping there 3543 02:53:47,360 --> 02:53:43,440 anymore did you want to have it happen 3544 02:53:52,229 --> 02:53:47,370 again did you started no I didn't miss 3545 02:53:57,599 --> 02:53:54,599 I kind of missed the ghost cat honey is 3546 02:54:01,439 --> 02:53:57,609 right has she come and visited you 3547 02:54:05,189 --> 02:54:01,449 lately no oh man you know so but yeah 3548 02:54:06,449 --> 02:54:05,199 great great great experience and and you 3549 02:54:07,800 --> 02:54:06,459 know we'll open up the phones on 3550 02:54:10,409 --> 02:54:07,810 Thursday night I would like to hear from 3551 02:54:12,809 --> 02:54:10,419 anybody else it's you know ghosts ghosts 3552 02:54:14,699 --> 02:54:12,819 pets that's that's that's really cool 3553 02:54:16,529 --> 02:54:14,709 hey Ron thank you yeah you don't hear 3554 02:54:19,229 --> 02:54:16,539 much of that all right Thank You Jimmy 3555 02:54:21,630 --> 02:54:19,239 have a great night my friend how you do 3556 02:54:25,289 --> 02:54:21,640 great phone call right there thank you 3557 02:54:28,619 --> 02:54:25,299 so much Ron the ghost cat curling up see 3558 02:54:31,439 --> 02:54:28,629 that happens to me every night and but I 3559 02:54:35,989 --> 02:54:31,449 reach down and I've got a dog I've got a 3560 02:54:39,599 --> 02:54:35,999 dog or a cat hanging out there that's uh 3561 02:54:48,090 --> 02:54:39,609 that's absolutely amazing and going back 3562 02:54:52,849 --> 02:54:48,100 to Pat's encounter that that having 3563 02:55:00,479 --> 02:54:52,859 something materialize and go physical 3564 02:55:03,269 --> 02:55:00,489 the thing is about ghosts right is they 3565 02:55:05,699 --> 02:55:03,279 can't hurt you right you're told that 3566 02:55:07,409 --> 02:55:05,709 they can't hurt you what's it gonna do 3567 02:55:09,630 --> 02:55:07,419 what's it gonna do push you down some 3568 02:55:12,719 --> 02:55:09,640 stairs is it gonna punch you in the face 3569 02:55:14,219 --> 02:55:12,729 right it's just a ghost and that's what 3570 02:55:15,779 --> 02:55:14,229 you know your grandparents my 3571 02:55:20,999 --> 02:55:15,789 grandparents used to tell me about the 3572 02:55:22,739 --> 02:55:21,009 girls in their home so and growing up 3573 02:55:24,389 --> 02:55:22,749 especially with our grandparents 3574 02:55:27,479 --> 02:55:24,399 anything strange happened in the house 3575 02:55:29,519 --> 02:55:27,489 you always got the same explanation now 3576 02:55:32,010 --> 02:55:29,529 that's our ghost you know pay him no 3577 02:55:34,170 --> 02:55:32,020 mind it doesn't it's not gonna hurt you 3578 02:55:37,649 --> 02:55:34,180 and so you hear this when you have three 3579 02:55:40,380 --> 02:55:37,659 four five six seven years old and you're 3580 02:55:44,609 --> 02:55:40,390 you're okay with it right but when a 3581 02:55:48,329 --> 02:55:44,619 ghost decides to go physical now we got 3582 02:55:51,479 --> 02:55:48,339 another situation he just Pat had said 3583 02:55:55,139 --> 02:55:51,489 that the ghost had put and tried to 3584 02:55:57,269 --> 02:55:55,149 choke his grandfather or the the the 3585 02:55:59,399 --> 02:55:57,279 father of the grandfather that that's 3586 02:56:01,380 --> 02:55:59,409 that's that's taking things to another 3587 02:56:04,380 --> 02:56:01,390 level you don't want to have these 3588 02:56:05,660 --> 02:56:04,390 entities to be able to go physical or 3589 02:56:09,560 --> 02:56:05,670 are they 3590 02:56:11,410 --> 02:56:09,570 now and the other part of it is look 3591 02:56:14,990 --> 02:56:11,420 everybody that's calling in right now 3592 02:56:21,310 --> 02:56:15,000 I'm wrapping up the show here in 45 3593 02:56:23,990 --> 02:56:21,320 seconds so we won't you can can stop but 3594 02:56:27,520 --> 02:56:24,000 when when something is going physical 3595 02:56:29,660 --> 02:56:27,530 that is where I have to question if it's 3596 02:56:31,429 --> 02:56:29,670 interdimensional right is it 3597 02:56:34,520 --> 02:56:31,439 interdimensional is this a parallel 3598 02:56:37,130 --> 02:56:34,530 world situation this is something coming 3599 02:56:40,310 --> 02:56:37,140 over from the other side is it a being 3600 02:56:44,900 --> 02:56:40,320 from the future right is it it could it 3601 02:56:50,210 --> 02:56:44,910 even be et some again light being type 3602 02:56:52,340 --> 02:56:50,220 of of entity I don't know I I do believe 3603 02:56:55,940 --> 02:56:52,350 that there is something going on here 3604 02:56:57,650 --> 02:56:55,950 that listening to Pat's experience that 3605 02:57:01,160 --> 02:56:57,660 was what I said that's a class-a 3606 02:57:04,160 --> 02:57:01,170 encounter that's a real world that that 3607 02:57:07,070 --> 02:57:04,170 is as real as anything that I believe it 3608 02:57:10,460 --> 02:57:07,080 actually happened like he says that's a 3609 02:57:12,650 --> 02:57:10,470 great great great encounter I do want to 3610 02:57:16,040 --> 02:57:12,660 remind everybody I got to think Nick 3611 02:57:17,870 --> 02:57:16,050 Pope and also it's Nick Pope dotnet the 3612 02:57:20,990 --> 02:57:17,880 links are over at Jimmy Church radio.com 3613 02:57:23,570 --> 02:57:21,000 and I can go and visit and excite all of 3614 02:57:25,940 --> 02:57:23,580 his appearances that will be happening 3615 02:57:29,360 --> 02:57:25,950 in 2018 are there his books are there 3616 02:57:32,920 --> 02:57:29,370 great articles a really really cool 3617 02:57:36,170 --> 02:57:32,930 website Nick Pope dotnet tomorrow night 3618 02:57:38,060 --> 02:57:36,180 Jason Louv will be here we're gonna talk 3619 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